Ek het gister gewonder waarom Toyota sê 'n vriend van my se Etios is nie geskik vir sleep nie.  Hy het 'n 1500cc 90Kw masjien en dit klink dus vir my dat hy sekerlik 'n 1000Kg wa met remme behoort te kan sleep.  Ek het gaan oplees.,

Die Etios is 'n Indiese voertuig.  Blykbaar is sleepwa sleep nie juis 'n ding wat die Indiës doen nie. Om gewig te bespaar, is hulle vloerpanne dus aan die agterkant nie baie stewig nie wat dit ongeskik maak om 'n sleepstang aan te heg. Dit geld blylbaar ook vir ander karre van Indiese oorsprong.  Ek sien daar is wel sleepstange vir die die Etios en ek dink 'n 400Kg sleepwa sal seker nie skade doen nie, maar baie moontlik gaan jy probleme met die assuransie of met waarborge kry- as die voertuig nog onder waarborg is- as jy 'n sleepstang aan het.  Die veiligste sal maar wees om vooraf seker te maak of die voertuig wat jy in die oog het, kan sleep.

My seun het n Etios gery.....ek sou nie sleep met hom nie. Hy is reeds lui solo...beslis nie sleep voertuig nie

Dit lyk my ek het verkeerd gelees of na 'n ander model gekyk wat 90Kw aangegee het wat ek nie nou weer kan opspoor nie.  Dalk het ek Pk vir KW gelees want 90 PK is 67 Kw wat ek nou vir die 1.5 kry.  Hy behoort darem 'n sleepwa te kan sleep. 

Interessant, my eerste sleepvoertuig was 'n Peugeot 504 van 60 KW en hy het die Sprite Supersport heel gemaklik gesleep.  Sy maksimum wringkrag was teen 2700rpm as ek reg onthou, wat teen 'n padspoed van 80k/u ingekom het.  Ek dit was 'n mediumgrootte kar, sekertlik heelwat swaarder as die Etios.  Bedrieg hulle ons dalk met die syfers of het 'n Kilowatt so stadigaan swakker geword?😦

Die vervaardiger bepaal wat die GVM (Gross Vehicle Mass) van die voertuig is.  Dan ook wat die GCM (Gross Combined Mass)

Die verkeers afdeling trek die twee van mekaar af om te bepaal wat die voertuig wettig mag sleep by 'n weegbrug.

So ongeag die enjin krag in Kw en Nm, as die vervaardiger die gewig so deurgee dat die voertuig nie werklik iets kan sleep nie is dit seker maar as gevolg van die ontwerp van die onderstel.

 

Having a powerful, torquey engine and plenty of grip is a good start, and there are also some towing laws to be aware of. As a bare minimum, a good tow car needs enough power to pull its own weight as well as whatever it's towing. Its kerb weight also influences the maximum weight of the item being towed

Diesel engines tend to be better for towing than petrol engines, as they have more torque. This means they're better able to handle the extra weight of a caravan

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• Curb Weight 
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• The frame of a full-size SUV or pickup truck usually has a “body on frame” design meaning that there’s a solid steel frame giving the vehicle strength as a foundation. This gives them added strength for heavy loads.  Smaller SUVs have a less structured unibody design, but are still safe for towing smaller loads

and Yes my one car 386 kw and 463nm can't tow a venter trailer.

386KW and only 463 NM?  This does not sound correct.  Some 120Kw machines have than amount of torque.  And such a vehicle unable to tow a trailer neither.  I think you are pulling our leg somehow- please explain.

Your statement that you need a large engine for long distances does not make sense to me.  For towing it might perhaps be true, but I even doubt that but it seems like a bid of historic logic.  Engines with turbo delivers a lot of power and torque and gearboxes with an increasing number of gears make them even more suitable for all types of usage, even towing.

  Porsche GT3RS go check specks,  so not all cars with power is designed to tow.  and that is my statement  big and small cheep or Expensive  not all cars can tow.

I thought there was a catch😂.  But has the Porsche really only have that amount of torque? It would surely raise eyebrows seeing a Porsche towing a van!

If I owned a Porsche I certainly would not tow a caravan with it, it would spoil my fun. 

I did own a Nissan 350z and never gave it a moments thought to tow our caravan with it. 

Of course not- I was just joking.

I can't even find a towbar for my Audi S3 with 180 kW and 325 Nm. so towing is out!

Fortunately there is my Touareg ............. :=))

I wonder why. Audi and at least one other supplier shows availibility on internet. With that much power tiwing would be a breeze.

Autobar in Pta behoort te kan help

Die gewig van die sleepvoertuig is 'n bepalende faktor wanneer dit by sleep kom.

Ek het in die middel tagtigs ons destydse Fleetline 4 karavaan met my vrou se Honda Ballade  probeer sleep - net om uit te vind of die ding dit kan doen. Teen opdaendes het dit goed gegaan, maar o wee, teen afdraendes het die stert die hond geswaai - amper omgekeer. Die Honda het 'n 1500 cc masjien gehad. Hierteenoor het ons ses silinder Granada dieselfde karavaan hanteer sonder dat jy kon agter kom daar is 'n stert aan die hond is. Die Granada was omtrent twee keer die Honda se gewig.

kW is die spoed waarteen enjinkrag gemeet in Nm gemaak word. kW tel nie veel punte nie. 1W = 1joule per sekonde. 

My 2.3 Chev het lekker gesleep, met net 66kW maar genoeg wringkrag teen lae enjinrewolusies. Dit was baie soos om met 'n turbodiesel te sleep. Stadig, maar sterk. 

Ek dink die Mercedes-Benz G400d Geländewagen behoort lekker te sleep: 243kW met 700Nm reeds by 1200 r/min. 

Terloops, ek het eendag 'n 3m hoë boom vir my kleinneef uitgetrek met 'n Mercedes-Benz 230.4!