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08 May 2016 @ 11:23:04 am
George
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hi all, i know this subject was disccused about 2 or so years ago on this forum, i guess i would like to hear first hand from full timers who are living the life style right [things im sure have changed over the past 2 or so years ] now what the basic expenses are . as my wife and i are seriosly planning on entering this life style in the not to distance furture [we are going to do it ] and wilst we are making every attempt to plan to the finest detail, prehaps there are things we have missed or over looked, would like to hear from those in the know.
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george and desiree
two roads diverged in a wood and i took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
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08 May 2016 @ 11:50:21 am
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Welcome to the forum George,
I see you are not very active.
We are also planning this full timer type of lifestyl and busy preparing our van, while the wife is doing her last seven working days at the grindstone.
I do not think that there is a fixed amount that you can work on as everyone has different living expenses.
Some people loke meat two or three times a day, while others have meat once a day or even once a week.
For overlanding it is reconned that you need R1000 p/d.
Here most of your expenses are on fuel, food and place to stay.
The less you travel p/d the less your expenses will be.
Monthly kamping fees at any one place seem to be between R1 500 and R3 500 p/month, depending on the place and season.
The KNP seems to be in the region of about R5 500 p/m if my eyes where not deceiving me.
Some places over Xmas need you to book for three months, Nov, Dec & Jan, which is then for R3 500 p/month or R10 500 for the Xmas period. They will not allow you to spend just one month there for this price/fee.
Remember I am no different to you as I am also about to embark on this journey of full timers, so will also be watching this space with interest.
My search skills are something that need improvement, so until the improvements are aquired then this post will be my inspiration.
Enjoy your well earned retirement.
On The Road Again
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08 May 2016 @ 12:27:27 pm
George
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the overhall plan is to start at the wild coast natal [ east coast ] and to be up the far end of the west coast [ namibia] in ten years time or to be as far up that route as possible before our time on this planet runs out, we will be staying on the coast line, there will be no return trip. our current life style is a simple one and will always be that way, we both have skills that are in demand so if push came to shove im sure we could get tempory work [ in the early years ] in the unlikly event the unforseen happens. up to 6 months stays at parks on that route are planned , that should give us time to explore each area with in our budget, we know we will have to move inland over peak seasons to escape the peak season prices and more so the bustle and noise the peak seasons bring, the only real unknown is our health, wilst we are both fit and in good health right now, its impossible to know how long that will last, where ever health deteriates on this journey i guess thats where it will stop, finances, we are currently looking at 10k p\m linked to a 10 percent increase every year, possible?
george
two roads diverged in a wood and i took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
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08 May 2016 @ 12:45:27 pm
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Dear George and Desiree, I'd like to think of full timers as gypsies. We're a unique bunch of people who enjoy travelling around our beautiful country and even, occasionally venturing into neighboring countries, leisurely and with the minimum of fuss and bother. We love to explore and we like as many comforts of home that we can get BUT at very reasonable rates. We blow with the winds and the seasons. If our neighbours or our caravan parks are getting a bit on our nerves then we simply hitch up and move on (No regrets/no scars). We should however keep our ears and eyes open to bargains, beautiful and well managed parks and areas where there is plenty to see and do. We should keep this forum updated on the existence of just such places so that we can reap all the benefits of this lovely and richly rewarding lifestyle that we purposefully chose to live. I like to stay at one place for a minimum of one month at a time so as to see and experience the surrounding areas. I choose a town which will become my central base and then travel the countryside in my Jimmy (Spinnerak/Spiderweb). Meeting and spending time with interesting people and like-minded campers is always a pleasure. The current escalation of rates the caravan parks are now charging is messing it up for us though and only by sharing our experiences and information on suitable parks will we be able to continue 'living our dream'.
Kind regards and enjoy your new life to the full!!

Majuba
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08 May 2016 @ 15:17:08 pm
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Welcome to the forum George
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08 May 2016 @ 16:42:21 pm
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Travelling your intended way will see you spending a big portion of your time in bleak winter climates as well as hellish hot summer climates for long periods at a time.
Most of the Swallows (permanent campers) spend six to eight months in the south or inland during the summer months. The winters get spent along the Natal coast or in the lowveldt.
Moving in one particular direction over a long period of time will be a different consept which may not be the norm for Swallows.
You will have to prepare yourself for adverse wheather conditions during the winter months with strong wind as well as rain along thecoast. Remember that the western cape predominantly has theit rain during the winter months.
Along the west coast you also have a cold see and no shelter, except what you build yourself. If you stay along the west coast you will need a 4x4 vehicle and off road caravan and between the Olifants River and the Groen Riviersmond there are no official campsites.
This area does not even have trees.
The eco park north of green river has limited campsites with very little
Shelter so you need to be self sufficient, like further south. Most of this area you need to even provide your own drinking and washing water as there is no or very limited fresh water.
Good luck with your decisions.
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08 May 2016 @ 17:25:41 pm
Karoo Klong
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George,welkom,dink dat julle n baie uitdagende vooruitsig het,hou ons op hoogte.
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08 May 2016 @ 18:57:37 pm
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Welcome George.

Not sure if insurance, medical aid, DSTV is part of this budget. If so then R10K a month is a tight budget but can be acheived using month specials at resorts and not moving too much. You will need to plan your route very carefully to try avoid high season rates at the poplular resorts.

 

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08 May 2016 @ 19:00:03 pm
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Welkom ja dis n nuwe reis n nuwe lewe geniet en hou ons op hoogte asb
Haak daai wa kamp bly koning
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08 May 2016 @ 20:07:47 pm
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Hi George & Desiree and welcome on the forum and also amongst the full timers.  We have just completed our 13th year as full timers and will not stop any time soon.  We let our house and have a flat that is let on a monthly basis only, to serve as a back stop should something go wrong with us.

We have stayed for up to two months at a comp, but prefer to move every month.  After a month the grass grow into your tent and the caravan wheels seem to settle into the ground. A month is usually long enough to get to know the area and also the people in the vicinity. Some parks will also ask you to move to a different stand every month and we certainly refuse to move around in a camp.

As Campervan mentioned, you will certainly suffer adverse weather conditions if you want to take years to cover the coastal camps only.  It is also not possible to find cheaper camps for the Easter and December holidays all over he country.  You may well have to pay the normal rate over these periods, or spend a lot of money on fuel.  Municipal parks are generally cheaper, especially inland, but some of these are so rundown that we prefer to stay away.

It is, however, a wonderfull life and you will soon sort yourself out.  You will find full timers in just about every camp you visit - chat to them, and soon you will have a network of friends all over the country.

You can also look at our two websites www.flipentilla.com and wwwflipentilla.co to find out more about our tours.

Flip de Wet
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09 May 2016 @ 15:10:44 pm
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Party mense sal lekker kan leef met R10k....ander gaan weer sukkel om uit te kom met R20k....hang maar af van persoon tot persoon
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09 May 2016 @ 16:35:17 pm
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Skies ek kaap nou, wat moet jy belê om R20k te kan kry ?

Oppad na die volgende kamp.
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09 May 2016 @ 17:36:25 pm
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Omtrent so 4 miljoen, en maak seker yj trek nie te veel om aan die kapitaal te raak nie. As koerse opgaan lag ons wat bele het.
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09 May 2016 @ 20:47:17 pm
HM
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Omtrent so 4 miljoen, en maak seker yj trek nie te veel om aan die kapitaal te raak nie. As koerse opgaan lag ons wat bele het.

Is dit R20K voor of na belasting?

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09 May 2016 @ 21:04:23 pm
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R4m en probeer te belê tussen man en vrou, so kry albei die maksimum belasting vrye rente, poog ook om te split tussen rente en dividende, deur bv direk by Alan Grey en Coronation ens. te belê. As mens voel jy het nie genoeg kennis van finansiele beleggings nie, raadpleeg so drie adviseurs. Hulle kos geld, maar kan jou baie hartseer spaar.

Hierdie is net my opinie, nie te sê dit is die beste advies nie!!!

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10 May 2016 @ 10:11:00 am
Chuck Norris
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Welkom op die forum.

Sal julle dop hou om te sien hoe dit my gaan raak.

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransies. (Parys - Frankryk)
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