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Karavaan wat swaai

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21 Apr 2015 @ 15:20:42 pm
Ian Marais
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Ek het so 3 weke terug amper my karavaan om ge gooi. Dit pla my baie want ek kan nie rerig dink wat verkeerd gegaan het nie. My kar se gewig is reg, Straight Liner was gekoppel en ek het op daai oomlik nie eers 100Kmp/h gery nie. Die pad was ongelyk en daar het 'n dwars wind gewaai, maar ek kan nie dink dat dit was nie want dit gebeur nogal baie. Wat my pla is die feit dat ek 4, 10 liter water bottels (gevul met water tot bo) in die karavaan gesit het. Ek het hulle mooi vas gepak langs die eiland bed wat agter in die karavaan is 2 aan elke kant. Kan water dit doen? Wat dink julle?
Ons gaan nou kamp!!
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21 Apr 2015 @ 16:09:35 pm
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Ja die water is swaar agter in die wa en water beweeg dit die oorsaak

 

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21 Apr 2015 @ 16:18:46 pm
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Ian, moenie water saam ry nie, die oorde het skoon water. As jy wel water wil saam ry, vul die houers tot propvol, en pak dit reg bo die as, of selfs effens na voor. 

Onthou, hoe swaarder jou karavaan se gat, hoe meer swaai gaan jy kry. Ek praat uit ondervinding.

Jou karavaan moet, na dit gehaak is, effens nose down sleep. Die Penta is 'n fantastiese karavaan, as jy wil kompenseer met die gewig op die voorkant (vir die 40kg water) skuif jou wa se spaarwiel na die Audi se kattebak. 1 liter water is 1 Kg.

Verder maak seker jou bande is op 3bar gepomp op die karavaan, en gewig eweredig versprei in die wa.

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21 Apr 2015 @ 16:29:40 pm
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Ben en Nico, baie dankie vir julle terugvoer en goeie raad. Ek ry gewoonlik nie water saam nie maar ons moes vir die kamp. Dit was op 'n plaas naby Fouries Burg. Ek is net bly dat julle ook dink dit was die water. Mens skrik jou self simple as dit begin swaai en jy kry dit nie weer reguit nie. Ek sit gewoonlik die tent in die kar se boot en die spaar wiel is onder die bed voor. Is dit reg?

PS Ek dink ek moet my signature verander na Ek gaan nou kamp sonder botels water!!! HAHA
Ons gaan nou kamp!!
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21 Apr 2015 @ 17:11:03 pm
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Hi Ian..

Jammer dat ek in Engels antwoord....

Interesting one....

That's 40 Kg...... Difficult to say... As a single influence? 40 Kg x distance behind the axle? could be... Personally I doubt it,  Unless you did not have sufficient nose weight to start with.... It could have "counter balanced" a marginal weight on the nose.... 

Usually there are a number of factors that combine to cause that...

Incorrect loading normally manifests as fishtailing getting worse.... By the time you start fishtailing you know something's wrong and stop to sort it out....

Simple explination... Van fishtails (side to side movement but does not lean over to the side) gets worse, develops into sway (caravan fistailing and leaning over) very quickly gets progressively worse & resultsing in van getting  thrown over...

There are many factors involved... Uneven tyre pressure, Incorrect attitude (nose up)

(The height of the tow ball should be 400mm from the ground to give a straight towing attitude, slightly nose down is better as it "lifts" the back a little

Brakes that may have begun to lock up on one side....,  (Unlikely in this cenario) bad loading, (rear heavy, should have 80 - 100Kg down force on the nose).... Driver response.... 

Driver response: - Conventional wisdom: - If fishtailing, back off the accelerator slowly to reduce speed slowly and bring the rig under control...

Mind giving more details running up to the event.... Did it happen all of a sudden? Did you have fishtailing and where trying to pull the rig straight under power,

What van what tug.... 

Perhaps you over corrected to the side wind on the steering precipitationg the event without anticipating such a radical change in stability...

You make mention that it happens a lot......

That being the case, personally I would start by by analysing your loading  IE do you have adequate weight on the nose, (80 - 100Kg) when loaded, and tyre pressures both sides.

This coupled with the extra 40Kg at the back & the poor road conditions....

NOTE: -

The stabiliser will only assist you when it all goes wrong. It won't correct an incorrect set up....

Let us know...

Regards 

Warren 

 

 

 

Slightly quicker downhill....
These days a teeny-tiny bit more slightly quicker....
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21 Apr 2015 @ 17:13:22 pm
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Doen hierdie toets net voor jy die karavaan haak nadat jy alles ingepak het: plaas jou Jockeywiel bo-op die badkamerskaal. Dit moet ongeveer 70Kg tot 100kg weeg. Wiele 3bar gepomp. Dit bly maar belangrik.

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21 Apr 2015 @ 17:21:35 pm
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Ek sien ek en Warren het dieselfde tyd geskryf en interessant kom ons raad op dieselfde neer. Ek is nie juis 'n voorstander van enige stabiliseerders nie. Hoekom het sleepwaens nie een 'n stabiliseerder aan nie? Ons het in my besigheid vier waens van 'n half ton tot drie ton agter bakkies en Dyna 4ton trokke gesleep sonder stabiliseerders. Die geheim was die neusgewig en dat die vrag eweredig versprei was.
Cheers vir altyd
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21 Apr 2015 @ 18:25:21 pm
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Vriend het soortgelyke ondervinding gehad agv die pad oppervlakte. daar was so voor in die teer getrap, die wa se wiel wou dit volg en hom amper omgeneuk.
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21 Apr 2015 @ 20:35:51 pm
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Warren,The road surface was uneven and newly tard. We approached a downhill as the fishtailing started. I tried correcting it by increasing speed as this normally rectify the fishtailing. This didn't work so i geared down (difficult to resist hitting the brakes I must admit...) and eventually came to a stop. While this commotion was taken place I looked into my rear view mirror and saw that the wright hand side back window of the caravan was open (we never open the caravan windows and always check that it is closed) The ESP of the car came on and the fishtailing stopped.

I mentioned above that it happen a lot, its usually when a cross wind suddenly hit the caravan or when i pass a oncoming truck.
I check the nose weight and it is usually close to 100kg (thanks to the aircon in the nose cone) the tyre pressure of the caravan was 3bar. My car's tyre pressure was 2.7 at the back and 2.5 in front as adviced by the assistant at TWT due to fact that I 20" tyers on the car
Please advise as we would like to avoid a similar situation again.
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21 Apr 2015 @ 20:45:25 pm
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never ever accelerate when this happens, all you do is adding more energy to the rig (remember high school science, that energy never disappears, it just is converted into another form, in this case the acceleration will be converted into more energy and then sway). Simply take your foot off the accelerator and let the rig get rid of the excess energy (and never brake or try to steer out of the sway, makes things much much worse!). I agree with the take of most that the 40kg of water at the back probably helped the sway to develop, maybe your van was packed wrong to start with and what was a marginal situation was pushed over the edge with the extra kg's in the back (its not the weight per se but is caused by the leverage effect from the back to the van's axle (like a pendulum)
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21 Apr 2015 @ 20:58:18 pm
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Almal hierbo het waardevolle en akkurate advies gegee. Hurricane is 100% reg. Baie mense verkeer onder die wanindruk dat as 'n swaai begin moet jy onder dit uit versnel. Dit is presies die verkeerdste ding om te doen. In die nuwe (Mei) uitgawe van Caravan & Outdoor is daar nogal 'n artikel oor Toyota sleepstange waar dit weereens bevestig word.

Wat die water betref, daardie 40 kg is nie baie nie, maar dit kan die pendulum effek begin. Tenkwaens en vliegtuig brandstoftenks het kompartemente met gaatjies in (baffles) om juis te keer dat die vloeistof heen en weer beweeg en daardie probleem veroorsaak.

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21 Apr 2015 @ 21:06:05 pm
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baie dankie vir al die goeie raad. Ek neem dit ter harte. N paar lesse geller ek moet se. Ek sal die water in die kraan los en die karvaan se gewig mooi versprei. Dit is lekker om te weet ek kan hier vra vir advies.
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22 Apr 2015 @ 05:53:06 am
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Warren,The road surface was uneven and newly tard. We approached a downhill as the fishtailing started. I tried correcting it by increasing speed as this normally rectify the fishtailing. This didn't work so i geared down (difficult to resist hitting the brakes I must admit...) and eventually came to a stop. While this commotion was taken place I looked into my rear view mirror and saw that the wright hand side back window of the caravan was open (we never open the caravan windows and always check that it is closed) The ESP of the car came on and the fishtailing stopped.

I mentioned above that it happen a lot, its usually when a cross wind suddenly hit the caravan or when i pass a oncoming truck.
I check the nose weight and it is usually close to 100kg (thanks to the aircon in the nose cone) the tyre pressure of the caravan was 3bar. My car's tyre pressure was 2.7 at the back and 2.5 in front as adviced by the assistant at TWT due to fact that I 20" tyers on the car
Please advise as we would like to avoid a similar situation again.

AhA! Going downhill...... Just check your brakes.... If one is set differently to the other you could also make the problem worse...

Stupid as this may seem. Check the geometry of the rig. Is your towbar on the centre line of the tug.

Is you caravan axle square to the body of the van... Just check.... Can't do no harm, you might just get n' moerse skrik...

Right. The cross-wind condition still steers me to incorrect loading.....

Quick fire: - you say 100Kg thanks to Aircon.... Is that before loading or after loading

So what is correct loading?

60 / 40 with a noseweight of 80 -100 kg on the jockey

The towing attitude is best level or slightly nose-dawn when loaded

TRIAL THE RIG before you leave on holy-day 

Let us know the result

 

 

Slightly quicker downhill....
These days a teeny-tiny bit more slightly quicker....
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22 Apr 2015 @ 07:40:14 am
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Hi Ian,

Daardie water was "beslis" die oorsaak. Daar was ook seker ander rede by, soos byvoorbeeld die pad, wind of skielike verandering aan bestuurs rigting.

Ek het so 'n ervaring saam met my Pa beleef en het ons 'n gleuf in die pad gekry wat ons glo het die karavaan gegooi.

Die water allen sal heelwaarskynlik nie die oorsaak wees - dit lê mos stil - swaar agter op die reguit pad terwyl die voertuig trek behoort ook nie te swaai nie - maar as dit begin swaai sal die gewig van daardie water beslis soos 'n "pendulum" gaan beweeg.

As jy regtig nodig het om die water te dra, probber dit eerder in die sleep voertuig laai - verkieslik tussen die wiele.

 

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22 Apr 2015 @ 09:35:32 am
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Dankie vir al die inligting julle het my ook baie geleer, ek ook maar relatief nuut in karavaan sleep.
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22 Apr 2015 @ 11:37:24 am
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Hou maar net by die basiese. Banddruk hoog genoeg; sleepvoertuig en woonwa. Woonwa gelyk of met neus effens na onder. Sleep so lig as moontlik, met die swaarder goed in die sleepvoertuig indien moontlik. Persoonlik sleep ek eerder verder op goeie paaie, as om op kortpaaie getrotseer te word met ongelyk padoppervlaktes en slaggate. Die skade en drama van slegte paaie kanselleer enige brandstofbesparing van die kortste roete uit. Dit is ook baie minder vermoeiend om so dag na die groot aftog na die see te vertrek en so dag voor die res terug te kom. Daar is minder voertuie om voor te rem of uit te swaai. Dit is baie rustiger by die vulstasies. Die hele rit verloop kalmer en daar is geen gejaag nie. Die kombinasie van verkeerd en haastig pak, saam met 'n gejaag om by die bestemming/huis te kom, is dikwels die oorsaak van die probleem.

Die gewigsverspreiding is belangrik. Daar moet 'n neusgewig wees van so 70 -100 kg, binne die sleepvoertuig en woonwa se spesifikasies. Pak swaar goed so laag as moontlik en so na aan die as as moontlik. Daardie water wat genoem is in die plasing hierbo was langs die eilandbed vasgepak. Hoe verder van die as af dit is , hoe meer van 'n hefboom effek sal dit uitoefen. Probeer om nie by afdraandes verby te steek nie (die voertuig wat verbygesteek word tel ook spoed op teen die afdraande!). Vermy swaar vrag wat rondrol of rondbeweeg (vloeistofhouers?). As dit alles reg is behoort die wa glad nie te swaai nie. Dan is die stabiliseerder 'n addisionele versekeringspolis soos 'n sitplekgordel.

Die ouens wat al 'n swaaiende wa beleef het, is gewoonlik die manne wat daarna baie meer presies en versigtig is en nie kanse vat nie.

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22 Apr 2015 @ 12:38:58 pm
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Hi Warren, the nose weight is after all loading. The one thing that I keep on reading is caravan must be in a nose down position. My car have one of these goose neck tow bar that was a factory fitment. My caravan is normally straight with the car and not in a nose down position. What can I do to fix this?
Ons gaan nou kamp!!
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22 Apr 2015 @ 14:36:56 pm
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As die karavaan gelyk is, is dit reg. Dit moet net nie neus in die lug staan nie. Ek sou nie daar peuter nie.

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22 Apr 2015 @ 14:46:38 pm
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Not really that much of an issue, Flat (when loaded) is really fine.... but, when loaded...

Without being there, to see for myself, I have to take into consideration that you may have a "nose-up" attitude, and even then I have to assume a bad case of nose up....

Problem with "nose up" is it has the effect of shifting.... how shall I put this......

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ok, the force of gravity (or natural force) is always perpenducular. and not to the van.

For explaining, let's ignore inclines and say the ground plane is flat...

If the van is "nose up", the natural force remains perpendicular to the GROUND PLANE not the VAN, therefore it has the effect of "shifting" some weight rearwards, behind the axle and this will exacerbate the fishtail / sway. (It also counter-acts on the nose-weight)

Also, you run the risk of smashing the rear of the van on the ground if you go over say a speed-hump.

BTW. In these discussions the practice of greasing the coupling often comes up....

I used to grease, then I didn't, then I used a polythene bag as a way to lubricate the ball, then I stopped altogether.. I didn't notice an difference to the stability....

going back to the late 70's I've had 5 caravans in my time.

a Campride Constantia solid side, / a Gypsey 4, / A slipstream fold-up / A Jurgens 450 / and a Jurgens Avion LT / 

There are pics that I placed on the forum where I specifically towed my 450 + a boat (tandem towing) up & over Naudes neck & Joubert's passes just to prove a point... but that's another adventure....

 

 

 

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These days a teeny-tiny bit more slightly quicker....
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22 Apr 2015 @ 16:24:42 pm
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EK HET NIE AL DIE KOMENTAAR DEUR GEGAAN NIE MAAR HIER IS MY GEDAGTE
1. Die pad was ongelyk en daar het 'n dwars wind gewaai,
- DIE STELLING KAN BY DRA TOT 'N ON STABIELE KARAVAAN.
1a. want dit gebeur nogal baie.
- HIER VERDISKONTEER JY DIE MOONTLIKHEID
2.0 Wat my pla is die feit dat ek 4, 10 liter water bottels - 40kG - (gevul met water tot bo) -DIT SE DIE BOTTELS WAS PROP VOL SO DIT LAAT MIN OF GEEN RUIMTE VIR WATTER OM TE SKOMMEL NIE -
2.1 Ek het hulle mooi vas gepak langs die eiland bed wat agter in die karavaan is - DIT KAN JOU WA SE NEUS LIG MAAK - 2 aan elke kant - JY HET LINKS NA REGS GEBALANSEER.
3. Kan water dit doen? AS DIE WATER RUIMTE HET OM BAIE TE BEWEEG KAN DIT 'N PENDULUM UIT WERKING HE WAT SAL ESKALEER TOT DIE WA BUITE BEHEER IS. MAAR AS MENS DIE OPPERVLAKTE VAN ,N WATER BOTTEL MEET SAL IT NIE GEWELDADIG RAAK TENSY DIE HELE BOTTEL SAAM KAN BEWEEG NIE.

Wat dink julle? EK GLO DAAR WAS 'N ANDER FAKTOR OOK BETROKKE GEWEES. GAAN SIT DINK OF JY DALK IETS ANDER IN JOU WA GEPAK HET.
WAT VOLGENS JOU WAS DIE MOONLIKHEID SKRAAL, EK GLO DIE GROOTSTE BYDRA WAS DEUR DIE WIND EN SWAK PAD OPPEVLAK GEWEES
Kom ons gaan kamp
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22 Apr 2015 @ 19:47:46 pm
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Gewig moet voor na agter EN kant na kant eweredig versprei wees. Dit help nie voor en agter is in lyn nie, maar die een kant is veel swaarder as die ander kant nie.

Banddruk speel ook baie groot rol, minimum, 3bar op diewa, ek sou ook die Audi agter ten minste 2.8 bar maak.

Sonder om al die feite te hê, sou ek raai dat hierdie 'n kombinasie van gewig verspreiding, lae band druk, dwarswinde en pad toestande is. My Penta sleep ek deer berge met baie wind en net 'n yellow blade, band druk 3.0bar, en geen onstabiliteit nog ooit nie.

Die yellow blade, of enige stabiliseerder, is net vir wanneer daar probleme kom, om jou te help om beheer te behou.

Moet NOOIT rem trap in n swaai geweging nie.

verbeel jou wat sou gebeur het as jy 140KPH gery het, jy sou moontlik nie vir ons kon vertel wat het gebeur nie.

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22 Apr 2015 @ 20:27:11 pm
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Baie dankie vir al die terugvoer en raad. Ons ry Vrydag vir so paar dae see toe en moet se ek gaan die karavaan verseker beter pak. Ons is maar nuut met die hele sleep ding. Ek weet dat daai stabilizer net daar is vir peace of mind maar ek sit dit aan. (help maar om te weet daar is iets wat ook kan help) Ek is net bly ek het nie vinnig gery nie (ek hou van spoed so ek moet maar die speedo mooi dophou)
Die hele ondervinding het my maar net weer gewys dat mens jou kop moet gebruik nie net wanneer jy sleep nie maar ook wat jy pak en hoe jy pak.
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22 Apr 2015 @ 20:31:43 pm
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Op 'n vorige draad genoem van 'n kas bier wat van agter in die karavaan geskuif het tot aan die voorkant van die as edurende 'n rem sessie.

Dit het die onstabiliteit van die karavaan gestop,

So tenspyte van die pad oppervlak en winde dink ek het die water 'n groot bydrae gelewer in jou onstabiele trippie.  Ek glo jy sal reg wees sonder die water en al die raad.  Penta is 'n fantastiese karavaan en ek het hulle gesleep van 1997 tot 2011. Met een onstabiele onderonsie maar dit skryf ek toe aan die kondisie van my sleepvoertuig op daai stadium.

Lekker sleep

 

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22 Apr 2015 @ 20:32:28 pm
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Ian, dis die gees ou vriend, vat dit rustig. Die hele vakansie begin by die pak, eindlik by die gedagte van gaan kamp.laughing

Ry veilig, en geniet die pad ook, met potholes en al.

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22 Apr 2015 @ 20:41:04 pm
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Op 'n vorige draad genoem van 'n kas bier wat van agter in die karavaan geskuif het tot aan die voorkant van die as edurende 'n rem sessie.

Dit het die onstabiliteit van die karavaan gestop,

So tenspyte van die pad oppervlak en winde dink ek het die water 'n groot bydrae gelewer in jou onstabiele trippie.  Ek glo jy sal reg wees sonder die water en al die raad.  Penta is 'n fantastiese karavaan en ek het hulle gesleep van 1997 tot 2011. Met een onstabiele onderonsie maar dit skryf ek toe aan die kondisie van my sleepvoertuig op daai stadium.

Lekker sleep

 

Leon ek moet se ek is mal oor die penta lekker groot en baie pak plek vir mamma se lappies,bakkies en wat sy ook al sy kan inprop.... Jy moes daai bier eerder gedrink het 😝
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22 Apr 2015 @ 20:45:37 pm
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Not really that much of an issue, Flat (when loaded) is really fine.... but, when loaded...

Without being there, to see for myself, I have to take into consideration that you may have a "nose-up" attitude, and even then I have to assume a bad case of nose up....

Problem with "nose up" is it has the effect of shifting.... how shall I put this......

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ok, the force of gravity (or natural force) is always perpenducular. and not to the van.

For explaining, let's ignore inclines and say the ground plane is flat...

If the van is "nose up", the natural force remains perpendicular to the GROUND PLANE not the VAN, therefore it has the effect of "shifting" some weight rearwards, behind the axle and this will exacerbate the fishtail / sway. (It also counter-acts on the nose-weight)

Also, you run the risk of smashing the rear of the van on the ground if you go over say a speed-hump.

BTW. In these discussions the practice of greasing the coupling often comes up....

I used to grease, then I didn't, then I used a polythene bag as a way to lubricate the ball, then I stopped altogether.. I didn't notice an difference to the stability....

going back to the late 70's I've had 5 caravans in my time.

a Campride Constantia solid side, / a Gypsey 4, / A slipstream fold-up / A Jurgens 450 / and a Jurgens Avion LT / 

There are pics that I placed on the forum where I specifically towed my 450 + a boat (tandem towing) up & over Naudes neck & Joubert's passes just to prove a point... but that's another adventure....

 

 

 

I will double check the "level" between the caravan and car. No more water for sure!! Ps that adventure sound interesting
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23 Apr 2015 @ 09:19:45 am
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Sterkte met al die raad, doen so voort en veilig sleep.
As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransies. (Parys - Frankryk)
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23 Apr 2015 @ 10:31:35 am
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Ian, for some reason your outfit is bordering on instability, that is why a passing truck or sudden crosswind starts things going.
Its important when placing goods in the caravan that they are placed along the centre line and as close to the axle as possible.
The 100kg on the tow bar is typical and should be more than enough to ensure load stability.
The tow height HAS to be set so that the caravans chassis is level with the road.

Mechanical feedback seems to be the problem. This may amplify into instability when there is an external stimulus such as a truck passing in the opposite direction. What, therefore, happens when a truck passes you from behind, especially when there is also a crosswind?

What is never mentioned on these forums is the possibility of a loose axle on the caravan. There are four nut and bolt combos anchoring the axle to the chassis of the caravan on locally produced caravans. Have they ever been checked for tightness? On my newish caravan one was finger tight and two needed tightening, although there were no instability symptoms...
Over-loose wheel bearings could also allow some body movement and show up as tracking by the caravan along ridges in the road, or in response to a sudden gust of wind.

Are you sure your car is OK?

good luck,
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23 Apr 2015 @ 14:43:13 pm
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Hier is nou vir jou 'n boom vol uile. Mooi gedaan manne.
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23 Apr 2015 @ 15:27:58 pm
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Ian, for some reason your outfit is bordering on instability, that is why a passing truck or sudden crosswind starts things going.
Its important when placing goods in the caravan that they are placed along the centre line and as close to the axle as possible.
The 100kg on the tow bar is typical and should be more than enough to ensure load stability.
The tow height HAS to be set so that the caravans chassis is level with the road.

Mechanical feedback seems to be the problem. This may amplify into instability when there is an external stimulus such as a truck passing in the opposite direction. What, therefore, happens when a truck passes you from behind, especially when there is also a crosswind?

What is never mentioned on these forums is the possibility of a loose axle on the caravan. There are four nut and bolt combos anchoring the axle to the chassis of the caravan on locally produced caravans. Have they ever been checked for tightness? On my newish caravan one was finger tight and two needed tightening, although there were no instability symptoms...
Over-loose wheel bearings could also allow some body movement and show up as tracking by the caravan along ridges in the road, or in response to a sudden gust of wind.

Are you sure your car is OK?

good luck,
Ian.



Hi Ian it is Ian (HAHA)
I had the car at Audi today for a service and all is good with car. I will definitely take the caravan for a check up to make sure that the axels is correctly installed. I'm busy packing and I'm going to repack the caravan to insure the weight distribution is even. I'm going to Dolphin caravan park in Ballito so this will give me a good chance to make sure all is well. I can tell you one thing if I find out that the axel is loose CI will hear from me!!!! Of course I will share this with the forum etc. I bought a car once and on the way home there was a hell of a rattle and vibration coming from the rear. I pulled over to discover the back wheel was lose. Needles to say the dealer wont make that mistake ever again.

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28 Apr 2015 @ 04:21:11 am
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Hi Ian

hope you sort this problem out soon. Good luck

Regards ELNOR (Else & Norbury)

Happy camping
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30 Apr 2015 @ 10:28:57 am
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Hi, op hierdie onderwerp, wil ek graag julle opinie vra oor die SUV's met AWD vs stabiliseerders. Hoe stabiel sal so n kombinasie wees in bogenoemde omstandighede??

Groetnis.

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30 Apr 2015 @ 17:59:32 pm
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Hallo Andries. Jy vra 'n opinie oor SUV's met vierwielaandrywing vs stabiliseerders. Waarom nie albei nie, in plaas van die een teenoor die ander? Die vierwielaandrywing help met traksie vir wegtrek en op nat of gladde padoppervlaktes. Die swaai kwessie is eerder 'n stabiliteits- en balans probleem. Indien die banddruk en gewigsverspreiding reg is, behoort die woonwa of sleepwa stabiel te wees, met of sonder 'n stabiliseerder en met of sonder vierwieltrek.

Elke faktor wat bykom wat die kombinasie meer stabiel en veilig maak, is 'n bonus.

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30 Apr 2015 @ 18:58:09 pm
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Jy het ons nie vertel wat alles onder daardie eilandbed wat agter in die karavaan gemonteer is saamgery word nie. Om mee te begin, die porta pottie is waarskynlik onder die bed. Wat nog? Jy sź dit gebeur gereeld. Ek stel voor jy pak alles uit wat agter die as gepak word en dan gaan swaai jy hom rond om te sien wat hy maak. My raaiskoot is dus - nie gewigsverspreiding nie, maar te veel gewig agter die agteras.
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05 May 2015 @ 15:58:17 pm
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Hi Almal,
Hier is feedback oor die swaai probleem.
Ons was vir so paar dae weg met die karavaan en ek is baie bly om te se dat die karavaan nie eers een keer geswaai nie en daar was nogal baie wind op plekke.
Baie dankie vir elkeen se advies. Daar is nou een groot reel by my en dit is:
NIE TE VEEL GEWIG AGTER NIE EN KOOP WATER BY DIE KAMP!!!
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05 May 2015 @ 17:48:56 pm
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Praktiese ervaring bly nog altyd die beste leermeester,bly jou probleem opgelos,hoera vir die forum.
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05 May 2015 @ 18:02:28 pm
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Ian, baie bly jy het reg gekom, soos Dirk sê, ondervinding is die beste leermeester.

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05 May 2015 @ 19:47:24 pm
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Ian

En die band druk ?

Oppad na die volgende kamp.
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07 May 2015 @ 16:29:54 pm
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Ian

En die band druk ?

Ek het die karavaan se bande op 3Bar en die kar se agterbande op 2.7Bar voor was dit 2.5BAr
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07 May 2015 @ 16:32:14 pm
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Ian, baie bly jy het reg gekom, soos Dirk sê, ondervinding is die beste leermeester.

Die forum is verseker baie leersaam!!
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10 Sep 2015 @ 03:50:37 am
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 Ek wil net vir Frans Pretoruis baie dankie se vir die info wat hy my gegee het oor die Trapesuim stabiliseerder.Sal myne eers laat diens voordat ek hom wer gebruik.

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10 Sep 2015 @ 16:26:50 pm
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 Ek wil net vir Frans Pretoruis baie dankie se vir die info wat hy my gegee het oor die Trapesuim stabiliseerder.Sal myne eers laat diens voordat ek hom wer gebruik.

Mis hom hier op die forum, sy insig gewende advies was altyd in die kol.

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11 Sep 2015 @ 16:19:08 pm
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Lekke, ek het n straigh liner wat ek besluit het om nie weer te gebruik
nie. My exclusive en die huidige elegance swaai nie. Voor dit n sprite solar gehad en sonder iets geswaai totdat ek n yellow blade opgesit het, toes dit oor. Het gesien die laai van wźn is die heel belangrikste. Bygesź ek ry baie min oor 100kpu.
Onthou ons leef nie omdat ons wil nie, ons lewe omdat GOD se wil is dat ons lewe. Jys op aarde om n verskil te maak. Hierdie forum is daar om mekaar te help met al ons sleep probs. plus om vriende te word wat kan help.
I love camping all year round
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11 Sep 2015 @ 18:55:53 pm
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Johan, die Penta swaai ook nie, maar die yellow blade 'n voorsorg middel vir daai dag wat iets verkeerd loop.laughing

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