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08 Aug 2019 @ 11:07:37 am
Desere
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Good morning

 

We bought a Jurgens Exclusive, which we will be towing with a Toyota FJ Cruiser and sometimes with a Toyota Fortuner.

 

Which stabilisers can we look at?

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08 Aug 2019 @ 11:30:03 am
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Welkom op die forum. 

Het vroeer jare met n Tando gesleep. 

Tans op die explorer gebruik ek niks. 

Van die mede kampers hier op die forum Sal jou meer raad kan gee. 

Of gaan lees in by soek en als is daar. 

Sterkte 

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

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08 Aug 2019 @ 14:11:49 pm
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Welcome Desere,

For the Exclusive the only stabiliser rated high enough is the Straightliner. I have one on my Exclusive and it makes a small difference. The double axle Exclusive is a very stable tow. I often leave it off and the difference is marginal. But it gives peace of mind and it is easy to fit and use.

Without the Straightliner fitted, there is a slight wobble when a large vehicle passes. With it fitted, nothing!

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08 Aug 2019 @ 19:42:30 pm
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Ek gaan amper sê die yellow blade en Tando is te lig vir n exclusive. Straight liner is n opsie

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09 Aug 2019 @ 07:15:39 am
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Ek het n Yellowblade vIr R850

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09 Aug 2019 @ 13:17:14 pm
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I don't know what they cost but there is always the ALKO 3004 stabiliser which forms part of the hitch. Most of the imported caravans have them, I have one on my van - single axle GMV 1800kg and just slightly longer than the exclusive. Very stable on the road. 

The Alko stabiliser will be available from ALKO South Africa. link  They are very simple to fit.

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09 Aug 2019 @ 14:02:53 pm
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Desere, it will be illegal to tow the Exclusive with an FJ Cruiser, as Toyota limited the legal towing capacity to 1500kgs.  Please read this:

 

https://www.caravanparks.com/35.Caravan-Camping-Forums-FJ-cruiser-towing-capability-.htm?forumaction=1&loadcategory=1023&loadpost=250048180

 

And

 

https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php/122054-FJ-Cruiser-Towing-amp-Weight-(Payload)-Limitations-amp-other-quot-I-didn-t-know-that-quot-facts

 

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09 Aug 2019 @ 15:50:29 pm
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Ek gaan amper sê die yellow blade en Tando is te lig vir n exclusive. Straight liner is n opsie

Stem saam dat hulle te lig is. Oorweeg miskien trapesium. 

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09 Aug 2019 @ 16:02:34 pm
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"Desere, it will be illegal to tow the Exclusive with an FJ Cruiser, as Toyota limited the legal towing capacity to 1500kgs.  Please read this:"

I don't think the authorities go by manufacturers recomendations/limitations. Tow vehicle Tarr must be equal to or greater than caravan GVM. When I went to the weigh bridge that is what they were intersted in....and some other weights according to the vehicle and caravan plates and tyre specs as on the tyre. Not, manufacturers limitations in the manual or their web site.

Pse don't quote me.

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09 Aug 2019 @ 16:25:10 pm
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Then also, the manufacturer has his reasons. Better be safe than sorry. 1500Kg max is very limiting when you see what the GVM's are in the market.

There is also the issue of insurance refusing to pay out that must be considered. Better safe than sorry!

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12 Aug 2019 @ 07:22:18 am
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Only fout stabilizers that will work for the Exclusive.

Trapezium - Displace the towing point closer to the rear axle causing a more stable tow.

Straight Liner - Friction pad stabilizer developed specifically for heavy caravans.

AL-ko Stabilizer Coupling - Friction clamp around tow-ball type stabilizer

BPW Stabilizer Coupling -  Friction Clamp around tow ball stabilizer. (see picture)

The last two stabilizer look very complicated but are very easy to fit.

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12 Aug 2019 @ 07:49:50 am
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Daar was n gesprek gelede gewees oor yellow blade se weergawe vir swaarder karavane. Ek het gedink dit was Green blade gewees, maar kry niks onder "search" nie. Miskien kan iemand help....?

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12 Aug 2019 @ 07:57:47 am
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Daar was n gesprek gelede gewees oor yellow blade se weergawe vir swaarder karavane. Ek het gedink dit was Green blade gewees, maar kry niks onder "search" nie. Miskien kan iemand help....?

Weet ook van die groen weergawe van 'n stabiliseerder.  Dink hy word gebruik op Off-road karavane.  Dit is 'n dubbel stabiliseerder met 'n friksie skyf links en regs van die haak.

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12 Aug 2019 @ 10:42:24 am
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Weet ook van die groen weergawe van 'n stabiliseerder.  Dink hy word gebruik op Off-road karavane.  Dit is 'n dubbel stabiliseerder met 'n friksie skyf links en regs van die haak.

Leon. 

Dis die een wat ek het maar die jockey wiel hefboom is in die pad die dat ek hom nie gebruik nie. 

 

 

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

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12 Aug 2019 @ 11:07:35 am
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Leon die StraightLiner het n' verskrikliky stywe skokbreeker wat met n' V op n' arm met n' wielitjie druk. Dit is in die middle van die V waneer alles reguit is en dan druk die skokbreeker in om n' draai of as die woonwa swaai. Waneer die stabiliseerder/skokbreeker engaged is kan jy nie met jou hand die blade swaai nie.

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12 Aug 2019 @ 11:18:10 am
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Leon die StraightLiner het n' verskrikliky stywe skokbreeker wat met n' V op n' arm met n' wielitjie druk. Dit is in die middle van die V waneer alles reguit is en dan druk die skokbreeker in om n' draai of as die woonwa swaai. Waneer die stabiliseerder/skokbreeker engaged is kan jy nie met jou hand die blade swaai nie.

Sorry Paul

Ek beskou myself as uitgetrap. Jy is reg die Straight-Liner is nie 'n friksieskyf stabiliseerder nie. Maar wel 'n skokbreker tipe stabiliseerder.

Ek wil nog eendag hom ordentlik van nader bekyk. 

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12 Aug 2019 @ 11:41:20 am
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Leon voordat ek een besit het het ek glad nie geweet hoe dit werk nie. Ek het een dag by die kamp die werking van die ding bekyk. Dit is eintelik n' meganiese wonderwerk, vir my in elk geval. Hoe kom n' mens met die presiese ontwerp voor die dag? Ek dink die skokbreeker konsep is eenvoudig maar die toepassing is n' meganiese wonderwerk.

Maak n' groot geraas as jy skerp draai en die meganisme disengage van self.

Daar moet enorme kragte op die blade se hang plaatjie wees waneer jy draai. Dit is hoekom hy swaai en ek op die ou eind maar vas gebout het. End of problem!

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28 Oct 2019 @ 12:47:00 pm
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Dagsê mese.

Mag ek ook hier n eier lê.

Ons sleep n Sprite Sprint 2011 met n 2018 X-Trail automaties 4x4. Wat sal die beste stabiliseerder wees om op te sit as ek weer geld het. 

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28 Oct 2019 @ 12:49:25 pm
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Dagsê mese.

Mag ek ook hier n eier lê.

Ons sleep n Sprite Sprint 2011 met n 2018 X-Trail automaties 4x4. Wat sal die beste stabiliseerder wees om op te sit as ek weer geld het. 

Kyk vir Yellow blade of Tando....beide nuut onder R1500

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07 Nov 2019 @ 13:32:02 pm
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Kyk vir Yellow blade of Tando....beide nuut onder R1500

Ek stem saam met Geert vir die gewig van jou wa sal die Yellowblade of tando goe werk.

Leon. 

Dis die een wat ek het maar die jockey wiel hefboom is in die pad die dat ek hom nie gebruik nie. 

 

 

 

JIN nou met die nuwe wa kan jy daai groen stabiliseerder gebruik.

Al wat jy doen is om net een van die stabiliseerders te koppel.  Verkoop die ander stabiliseeder dan as 'n enkel een.  Die koper moet dan net 'n gewone yellowblade se voertuig plaat by Campworld gaan koop.

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21 Nov 2020 @ 12:38:28 pm
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Is the Tando good enough for a Sprite Splash?

Are all the Tando stabilizer suitable for 3.5ton or there are versions for 1.1ton? The reason I'm asking is because someone wants to sell me a 2nd hand one and I'm not sure if that one will suit me. Thanks.

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21 Nov 2020 @ 14:05:02 pm
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Roderigo, I had a quick look on Google and it seems to me there is only one Tando model on  the market.  I personally do not believe a Tando or any stabiliser working on the friction pad principle actually is worth the money and would certainly not be able to handle a heavy trailer- 3.5 tons as you mention.  Even for a light caravan of below one ton, like a Splash, I would not use it. I have a Tando which I haven't used for more than 30 years as I am convinced it does not work. It just gives you a false sense of safety which is going to leave you in the lurch at a critical moment. There is also a Al-Ko unit that works by clamping the tow ball but I am not convinced the torsion it exerts on the tow ball will not in time cause metal fatique which might eventually break off the ball.  Furthermore, I do not believe a stabiliser is necessary at all.  What is important is to load the caravan correctly, drive an a safe speed and do not do stupid things behind the steering wheel like quick jerks on the steering wheel.

If you are convinced you need a stabiliser, I would advise you to get one of the units that actually steer the van out of its sway,  like a Trapisium.

I know that some members on this Forum have a different opinion, so it it up to you to decide what you are going to do.

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21 Nov 2020 @ 15:53:14 pm
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Roderigo, I had a quick look on Google and it seems to me there is only one Tando model on  the market.  I personally do not believe a Tando or any stabiliser working on the friction pad principle actually is worth the money and would certainly not be able to handle a heavy trailer- 3.5 tons as you mention.  Even for a light caravan of below one ton, like a Splash, I would not use it. I have a Tando which I haven't used for more than 30 years as I am convinced it does not work. It just gives you a false sense of safety which is going to leave you in the lurch at a critical moment. There is also a Al-Ko unit that works by clamping the tow ball but I am not convinced the torsion it exerts on the tow ball will not in time cause metal fatique which might eventually break off the ball.  Furthermore, I do not believe a stabiliser is necessary at all.  What is important is to load the caravan correctly, drive an a safe speed and do not do stupid things behind the steering wheel like quick jerks on the steering wheel.

If you are convinced you need a stabiliser, I would advise you to get one of the units that actually steer the van out of its sway,  like a Trapisium.

I know that some members on this Forum have a different opinion, so it it up to you to decide what you are going to do.

Hi Fred I appreciate your comments. I am new to the caravan world, just did my first longish trip from Joburg to Skukuza and back. The towing was pretty much stable and I as driving 100-110km/h most of the time.

I'm not convinced it is a "must have" but what I read is it does help, so I'm kind on the fence.

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21 Nov 2020 @ 17:15:12 pm
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The decision is yours, but do read as much as possible on the subject, on this Forum but also anywhere else you can find.  I would say, until you are convinced you need a stabiliser, don't get one.  

How did you and your family enjoy the Kruger?  With a caravan slower is better. Even with the light and very stable we use at present, I limit my speed to 100k/u- on the GPS.

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21 Nov 2020 @ 17:21:12 pm
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Is the Tando good enough for a Sprite Splash?

Are all the Tando stabilizer suitable for 3.5ton or there are versions for 1.1ton? The reason I'm asking is because someone wants to sell me a 2nd hand one and I'm not sure if that one will suit me. Thanks.

I will rather go for a new one at R1500. If you need to service parts on the old one....how much is it going to cost? ....plus your purchase price? I don't think far from a new one's price 

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21 Nov 2020 @ 21:29:31 pm
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Good morning

 

We bought a Jurgens Exclusive, which we will be towing with a Toyota FJ Cruiser and sometimes with a Toyota Fortuner.

 

Which stabilisers can we look at?

 

Welcome to the forum  Desere

 

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22 Nov 2020 @ 21:21:01 pm
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The decision is yours, but do read as much as possible on the subject, on this Forum but also anywhere else you can find.  I would say, until you are convinced you need a stabiliser, don't get one.  

How did you and your family enjoy the Kruger?  With a caravan slower is better. Even with the light and very stable we use at present, I limit my speed to 100k/u- on the GPS.

Hi Fred we had a great time there. It was very hot during the day but at night it was perfect. The park was not too busy and now there is a new restaurant at Skukuza that is really good. I managed to find a goos camping site close to the ablutions and reasonably shaded.

 

Out of all my camping gear that I bought the porta potty was the most useful one by  far! My wife and daughter loved it. 

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