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10 Feb 2017 @ 06:20:39 am
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Ok then, so who watched the first of the latest season of Ultimate braai-master???

Well the 2 that where eliminated chose to do an ox-tail, they did it in a pooitjie, but the time was too short... and the darn thing was not cooked enough...

So my question is would they have been successful if they had somhow converted the stock standard pooitjie into a pressure kooker by somehow forcing the lid down? and how could that have been done?

Any ideas??

 

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10 Feb 2017 @ 06:35:44 am
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Warren, I did not watch the episode you mention but what time period did they have for the oxtail?   Because oxtail, is oxtail, it needs to cook a long time, unless you have a proper pressure cooker.  A heavy lid on your pot may help, but enough time is the only solution.

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10 Feb 2017 @ 06:50:49 am
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Only way to reduce the kooking time with oxtail is the pressure way. Heavy lid will just have cause their arms to get excersize thats that.

To get to proper pressure that pot should have a seal and be able to close of properly with a safety valve. To say you have a presure cooker you must allow for a fair amount of presure inside that cooker.

I think the new electric pressure cookers has a basic spec in the user manual.

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10 Feb 2017 @ 06:58:04 am
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Warren, I did not watch the episode you mention but what time period did they have for the oxtail?   Because oxtail, is oxtail, it needs to cook a long time, unless you have a proper pressure cooker.  A heavy lid on your pot may help, but enough time is the only solution.

2H I think...

 

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10 Feb 2017 @ 07:05:18 am
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Warren I agree with Freda, oxtail needs time, this helps it to kook out and get sticky. Oxtail that is not sticky is not oxtail.

Regarding the cast iron pooitjie becoming a pressure cooker, this may be difficult as I have yet to see one where the lid would seal air tight. Spring type clamps holding the lid in place, with one or two steam leaks between the lid and pot? but then there is no easy way to get them off

 What I use in my pooitjie, is one of those spouts that you put into the pooitjie that when the pot start cooking sucks the sauce/ juces up and spouts it onto the lid which in turn then drips down onto the top of the ingredients in the pot. But again you need time.  

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10 Feb 2017 @ 07:24:24 am
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2H I think...

 

Sometimes 2 hours may be enough.  It depends on the oxtail.  Some cook longer than others.   I may be wrong, but I have noticed,  when the oxtail has a dark colour, it takes longer to cook.   If the meat has a pinkish colour to it, it seems to be a younger ox maybe?   

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10 Feb 2017 @ 07:31:25 am
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Warren, oxtail potjie needs three hours to cook, they should never have chosen oxtail, if they knew, the time limit is two hours.

I hate precooking food in one utensil only to move it to another to get the result I want, potjie starts and end in the potjie, but that just me.laughing

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10 Feb 2017 @ 08:13:14 am
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I agree with Johann. What goes in the pot, stays in that pot until eaten. I have seen a oxtail potjie where the chef cooked the oxtail on high eat for about 30 min and there after on medium heat for about one hour. Boy was that tail tender. You pressed the meat with a fork from the bone. Different guys, different styles.

Warren, for me I think the time was to short. You need time and a good wine for a lekker oxtail potjie

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10 Feb 2017 @ 09:12:13 am
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Well done Warren, this type of thinking is what makes for new inventions and gets the rest of us thinking for solutions.
I agree with bugsy,
Boost for 30 to 60 minutes, depending on how tough the meat is, but it must at least start getting soft before you can continue, then bring the temperature down and simmer with vegetables for the remaining hour.
There is no way that you can seal the potjie lid, unless,
You use a thick food grade rubber seal, with the weight of the potjie lid and a brick are the weight to build in the pressure.
The pressure build up in the pot will lift the lid, releasing pressure.
You would thus have to experiment with the weight you use on the lid
Which would determine the amount of pressure in the pot.
I do not know if the design of these pots, or,
Cast iron is designed to be able to with-stand pressure, but,
I guess that our engineers on the forum would be able to give us these answers.
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10 Feb 2017 @ 09:25:02 am
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As a complete layman on metal and metal designs, I am just thinking, if you pressurise a potjie it will build up pressure to a point, and then the lid will shoot off like a bomp shell if "clamped" too tight.

Obviously, I could be wrong, but there is nothing to keep the lid secure on the potjie's design? 

Sorry Warren, I might be off the topic now, but that is just my 3.5 zuptas, see I take inflation into accountwinklaughing

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10 Feb 2017 @ 09:39:41 am
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All": - Yi...........I think they where given a total of 2H and the where sent to eliminaton coo-off because the should not have taken oxtail in the firs place....

& Johann, no not off topic bang on the tent peg actually........ Let's say they had cut a cloth gasket from a voorskoot, put it under the lid & put rocks on the lid...not exactly a pressure cooker, but would they have created enough elevated tempature to get the ox tail done?

Nou moet die kenners in-clock....

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10 Feb 2017 @ 14:09:41 pm
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Het darm lanklaas n beesstert pot geeet.

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

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11 Feb 2017 @ 09:59:01 am
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As a complete layman on metal and metal designs, I am just thinking, if you pressurise a potjie it will build up pressure to a point, and then the lid will shoot off like a bomp shell if "clamped" too tight.

Obviously, I could be wrong, but there is nothing to keep the lid secure on the potjie's design? 

Sorry Warren, I might be off the topic now, but that is just my 3.5 zuptas, see I take inflation into accountwinklaughing


Agree Johann,
That is why I suggested a seal and a weight.
S soon as the pressure gets more than the weght,
It will push the lid up just enough to allow pressure to escape
without blowing the lid off,
This will keep a constant pressure in the pot.
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11 Feb 2017 @ 18:34:17 pm
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Bees stert soek baie wyn baie tyd
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12 Feb 2017 @ 16:24:07 pm
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Ek wil nou nie stroom op gaan nie...maar het al ophou kyk na hierdie program. Was altyd in die verlede opgewonde oor hierdie program met die hoop om goeie idees en resepte op te tel....maar was nog elke keer n teleurstelling gewees vir my. Al waar dit oor gaan is n gejaag en n gevloek en n gefaaaaitery omdat mense nie hul kos in die spertyd gereed kan kry nie. Daai ouens weet nie waaroor braai werklik gaan nie...besit fancy restaurante in Sandton ensovoorts. Braai gaan vir my oor ontspanning...goeie tyd spandeer met familie. Natuurlik ook met n lekker ete....maar nie met n gefaaaaait en gevloekery en gestres vooraf om n bord kos voor te berei nie.....eet dan liewer n sny brood met jam daarop. Ek is tans besig met n braai....maar my vrou staan nie langs my en skreeu met n stophorlosie in haar hand nie...deel van ons ontspanning. M2c
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12 Feb 2017 @ 17:18:12 pm
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Geert, stem 100% saammet jou, braai is familie / vriende tyd, niks moet gejaag wees nie.  Due is nou wel 'n kompitiese, en moet met reels gepaart gaan,maar los maar die faaits en swetsery by die huis.

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12 Feb 2017 @ 19:51:58 pm
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Ek kan ook nooit verstaan hoekom die mense nie genoeg tyd kry om hul kos te maak nie.  Dit is altyd 'n gejaag op die einde en dus baie frustrerend.   "Laat die potte prut" gee 4 ure, maar dit is vir 'n hele paar potte.  As die deelnemers reg beplan, behoort 4 ure oorgenoeg tyd te wees.  Maar selfs daar is hul die meeste van die tyd net betyds klaar.

Ek wil nou darem sê, ek en my Ingelsman sal nooit as te nimmer aan so kompetisie kan deelneem nie, ons is te verskillend in ons manier van kook.  Dit is hoekom, as een van ons kosmaak, los die ander een die kok in vrede, dan is daar vrede.  laughing   So, baie hang seker af van die deelnemers self.  As jy en jou maat dit nie kan doen nie, bly eerder weg.

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13 Feb 2017 @ 06:28:00 am
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Ek wil nou nie stroom op gaan nie...maar het al ophou kyk na hierdie program. Was altyd in die verlede opgewonde oor hierdie program met die hoop om goeie idees en resepte op te tel....maar was nog elke keer n teleurstelling gewees vir my. Al waar dit oor gaan is n gejaag en n gevloek en n gefaaaaitery omdat mense nie hul kos in die spertyd gereed kan kry nie. Daai ouens weet nie waaroor braai werklik gaan nie...besit fancy restaurante in Sandton ensovoorts. Braai gaan vir my oor ontspanning...goeie tyd spandeer met familie. Natuurlik ook met n lekker ete....maar nie met n gefaaaaait en gevloekery en gestres vooraf om n bord kos voor te berei nie.....eet dan liewer n sny brood met jam daarop. Ek is tans besig met n braai....maar my vrou staan nie langs my en skreeu met n stophorlosie in haar hand nie...deel van ons ontspanning. M2c

Yip... I second you... Ain't learning a bloomin thing... What with a fat pantry provided... brand new whatever to kook on and who the heck's washing all those dishes?

HUH?

HUH?

I think it's to commercalised and surreal

Just that.................Well................... There ain't much else to watch now is there?

AS far as I'm concerned, who the heck gives a hoot if worsi got dropped in the coals... Someone took the trouble to for me... That's more that enough...

So te praat van Worsie.... And cooking.....

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Die vetkoekpalys is terug.

Hope they bring back Orknie-snork-nie With Ouboet & spytpoep II as well

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13 Feb 2017 @ 06:34:46 am
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Orkney snork nie was recently broadcasted on SABC Encore...think it's channel 156
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14 Apr 2017 @ 17:00:15 pm
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I took one of my pots to an engineering works to have the pot and lid machined to facilitate a perfect fit.

Sure, it fits perfectly, but every now and then the lid simply lifts marginally and the pressure escapes. I have tried with two bricks on top. No go. Me thinks - a cast iron pot is a slow cooker. Jou cannot transform a donkey into a race horse, even if you stick a turpentine cloth up its backside.

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14 Apr 2017 @ 17:24:30 pm
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Kanneman, I have never seen a cast iron pot as a pressure cooker, no matter how well the lid seals.   It is a slow cooker.  In Afrikaans they say the pot must "prut", meaning slow cooking.   You're right about the donkey and the horse. laughinglaughing

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