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17 Nov 2019 @ 17:17:35 pm
Paddyandpaul
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Pictures of Skippers at Bazeley Beach get together. There were 35 Skippers and we had a reall tasty Fish and salad meal on saturday night hosted by Robbie and Reinhardt from Skipper.

A really friendly bunch of people and it will be a good thing to do this again next year. Met Brian and Delene from this forum and he had one or two tricks up his sleeve for Skippers and is a very friendly fellow.

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17 Nov 2019 @ 18:56:11 pm
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Dankie vir die terugvoering en foto's. Lyk my die weer het toe mooi saamgespeel....sien lekker sonskyn op foto's 

WAARSKUWING:

Kampeer is aansteeklik en verslawend 😁
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17 Nov 2019 @ 20:01:19 pm
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Pictures of Skippers at Bazeley Beach get together. There were 35 Skippers and we had a reall tasty Fish and salad meal on saturday night hosted by Robbie and Reinhardt from Skipper.

A really friendly bunch of people and it will be a good thing to do this again next year. Met Brian and Delene from this forum and he had one or two tricks up his sleeve for Skippers and is a very friendly fellow.

It looks like a bunch of fun. 

Is there a similar get together by other manufacturers or certain make of caravan ? It’s just out curiosity. 

 

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18 Nov 2019 @ 07:01:52 am
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This was really a great turn out of Skipper Campers.  Think that is the best ever type of get together here in SA.

35 units ...................... go for gold Skipper! ! ! ! !

Sonder Jesus is ek niks! ! ! !
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18 Nov 2019 @ 08:00:50 am
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Lekker en almal praat die selfde goed.

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransies. (Parys - Frankryk)
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18 Nov 2019 @ 09:01:42 am
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There were 11 cancelations because of the weather reports i believe, so it would have been 46 vans. Last year there were 60 Skippers. The weather has not been good but at least saturday was sunny. Overcast today, monday and our tent is still wet so i do not want to pack a wet tent and we may stay until the weather dries up.

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18 Nov 2019 @ 09:17:18 am
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Enjoy the Camping. Weather is a great reason to stay longer.  Even if its because of tents that need to dry out.

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19 Nov 2019 @ 08:11:15 am
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Aaah Paddtandpaul, to be abel to use a wet tent as excusse not to pack your bags and go, pure bliss, another two years or so.........

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19 Nov 2019 @ 09:55:33 am
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We actually felt the tent monday morning and it was dry so we packed up very leisurly with the help of a parks fairy (assistant). 

Going camping to Cobham in the berg on Sunday so there is little FOMO (fear of missing out).

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19 Nov 2019 @ 10:02:52 am
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How does these Skippers handle strong winds? I am starting to look a something like this.

Se dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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19 Nov 2019 @ 13:16:35 pm
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The skipper tent is really well made and has enough poles for the frame that it stands up better to wind with out storm straps or nets than most other vans or tents.

As Robbie Kerkhof (Skipper munufacturer) says, do not take the guy ropes down the pole about 300 mm loop it around the pole and then take it out sideways to peg in the ground like a lot of people do. The ropes must come out sideways from the top of the poles like normal.

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19 Nov 2019 @ 14:20:47 pm
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Paul, I repeat my question under another string, which really belong here: Did you perhaps see any of the new rally tents the Kerkshoffs offer for the Oyster and if so, what was your impressions?

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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20 Nov 2019 @ 08:00:40 am
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The skipper tent is really well made and has enough poles for the frame that it stands up better to wind with out storm straps or nets than most other vans or tents.

As Robbie Kerkhof (Skipper munufacturer) says, do not take the guy ropes down the pole about 300 mm loop it around the pole and then take it out sideways to peg in the ground like a lot of people do. The ropes must come out sideways from the top of the poles like normal.

Wonder why he says that?

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20 Nov 2019 @ 11:33:27 am
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Hennie an engineer will probably be able to explain the force vectors that make it better to take the guy ropes sideways ftom the apex of the tent. It made sense to me from the limited Applied Mechanics i studied at tech. The force downward is being distributed from the top and not partway down the pole.

Robbie Kerkhof said they experienced a serious wind storm where their Skippers were virtually the only tents left standing and their ropes were taken from the top. I know i will follow his advice from now on.

Fred i answered your question about the ralley awning in the other thread. Did not see any with nylon sides.

 

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20 Nov 2019 @ 11:41:25 am
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Fred speak to Badger (Brian Hibbard) he has had a small ralley awning made up for his Oyster i would also like to see.

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20 Nov 2019 @ 12:11:47 pm
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The skipper tent is really well made and has enough poles for the frame that it stands up better to wind with out storm straps or nets than most other vans or tents.

As Robbie Kerkhof (Skipper munufacturer) says, do not take the guy ropes down the pole about 300 mm loop it around the pole and then take it out sideways to peg in the ground like a lot of people do. The ropes must come out sideways from the top of the poles like normal.

To me it all depends on how the rope is attached to the roof part of the tent. 

  • In the old days the rope was looped around the pole-hole of the roof then a piece of leather or material was placed over it then only was the rope and material stitched to the roof.  To me this it the best way of securing the rope to the roof.  In the way explained by Paul would work fine.  Down fall is if you need to replace the rope you had to loosen the old stitching and redo everything with the new rope.  Ropes at that time were cotton with wooden sliders.
  • Later they stitched a piece of material in the form of a loop and attach the rope to that.  In this instance the loop tore out from the roof.  This is why people started to loop die rope around the pole.  It should actually be looped around the pole just where the material loop ends.  So it is very close to the top of the pole.  This way the roof is held in place on the pole, the pulling is now done on the pole and the hole in the roof and not the material loop.
  • Further more the roof only had a hole in for the pole end and a piece of plastic clipped around the tip of the pole.  These plastic clips also broke and if you use them and wind the rope around the pole it has the same result.  You don't pull on the plastic clip any more but on the pole.

To me you get the same effect as described by Paul if you still wind the rope once around the pole then anchor it to the ground. You must just keep the winding/loop close to the top tip of the pole not 300 mm or halfway down the pole as some do.

Sonder Jesus is ek niks! ! ! !
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21 Nov 2019 @ 09:50:43 am
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To me it all depends on how the rope is attached to the roof part of the tent. 

  • In the old days the rope was looped around the pole-hole of the roof then a piece of leather or material was placed over it then only was the rope and material stitched to the roof.  To me this it the best way of securing the rope to the roof.  In the way explained by Paul would work fine.  Down fall is if you need to replace the rope you had to loosen the old stitching and redo everything with the new rope.  Ropes at that time were cotton with wooden sliders.
  • Later they stitched a piece of material in the form of a loop and attach the rope to that.  In this instance the loop tore out from the roof.  This is why people started to loop die rope around the pole.  It should actually be looped around the pole just where the material loop ends.  So it is very close to the top of the pole.  This way the roof is held in place on the pole, the pulling is now done on the pole and the hole in the roof and not the material loop.
  • Further more the roof only had a hole in for the pole end and a piece of plastic clipped around the tip of the pole.  These plastic clips also broke and if you use them and wind the rope around the pole it has the same result.  You don't pull on the plastic clip any more but on the pole.

To me you get the same effect as described by Paul if you still wind the rope once around the pole then anchor it to the ground. You must just keep the winding/loop close to the top tip of the pole not 300 mm or halfway down the pole as some do.

This makes sense. 

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21 Nov 2019 @ 16:30:32 pm
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Leon, you have shown us you have been camping a while when they had rope guy ropes not nylon and what you are saying is quite correct and confirms what Robbie Kerkhof told me. The ropes attached to the eyelets used to pull out with the old materials that were not reinforced adequately or the material deteriorated. Taking the rope down a little then looping them around the pole before taking the rope out sideways helped prevent the eyelets coming loose and the ropes pulling out.

This is why this forum can be so great, you find out why things are now done a certain way, or what better ways to do things.
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22 Nov 2019 @ 22:54:52 pm
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About three weeks ago we went into this topic in great detail and basically come to a similar conclusion,  just one point to ponder ???

Are your tent poles inside the walls of your tent when you use all of the sides ?, If so there is no support for the canvas when the full tent is erected.   If however the poles are on the inside of the tent it will be impossible to loop the guy rope around the pole  and still achieve the desired tensioning of the  canvas and putting the required downward force on the tent pole. I see no practical reason for the loop down the pole other than to tie the tent to the pole should the wind lift the tent, if you are very lucky the pole may not move sideways.

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