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26 Apr 2020 @ 15:36:29 pm
Robert Cano
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Hi guy's. 

Can anybody out there recommend a portable open view TV dish, which is easily installed for a chap that has no idea how to set up such a thing 

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26 Apr 2020 @ 17:47:27 pm
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get yourself a satellite finder, they cheap, easy to use and you will set up any dish. when i get to a new site i look around and check which direction the other dishes are pointing [ and there are always some around ] set mine up in the general direction connect the satellite finder and home in on the signal. 
two roads diverged in a wood and i took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
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26 Apr 2020 @ 19:23:29 pm
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Openview uses the same satellite as DSTV . The probability is that your home dish has a standard lnb on it. 

So whether you want DSTV or OPENVIEW,  I would recommend a 60cm dish which, unfortunately may be difficult to find. A fibreglass dish will take the knocks better.

Look to see where the 9:30 sun is, as that is where the satellite is. Or as stated the direction of the other dishes. Wait till about 11am as all cheap finders will pick up the sun. Set the elevation bracket to 30° on the mounting bracket (a fraction lower in WC & higher in N KZN) . Set Lnb scew to 4:30 from the  front. Your pole (fork) MUST be vertical (every time) . Aim the dish to open sky to the side of the 9:30 sun. Set your finder so that it is just just buzzing. Pan till you hear a higher pitch from the buzzer (it will spike) . You are aiming for maximum buzz. You may have to adjust the elevation the first time, but within a localised area it will always be the same if your pole is vertical. Be aware that trees also affect satellite finders. Let the Decoder boot up.

For many reasons I am not a fan of the small dish in a suitcase that is sold by all mass retailers.

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26 Apr 2020 @ 19:40:49 pm
Robert Cano
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Thanks guys for the info.

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26 Apr 2020 @ 20:46:18 pm
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Two years ago we were camping at Leentjiesklip when our neighbour pulled out a small dish such as the ones campers used to cart with for their previous generation decoders. 

I asked him if he has been successful using it recently, and he said he will show me that it works just fine. 

To my amazement he used the small Extra View decoder as a stand alone decoder and not long afterwards he was watching DSTV. I was wordless.

He told me he phoned Multichoice and for a fee they made the connection possible.

Be who you are and say how you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
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26 Apr 2020 @ 21:32:50 pm
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Two years ago we were camping at Leentjiesklip when our neighbour pulled out a small dish such as the ones campers used to cart with for their previous generation decoders. 

I asked him if he has been successful using it recently, and he said he will show me that it works just fine. 

To my amazement he used the small Extra View decoder as a stand alone decoder and not long afterwards he was watching DSTV. I was wordless.

He told me he phoned Multichoice and for a fee they made the connection possible.

Been using the same setup as the guy at Leentjiesklip for years with no hassles. Never had to contact Multichoice.

The Happy Campers.
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26 Apr 2020 @ 22:22:51 pm
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Thanks Hendrick. One is never too old to learn.

Be who you are and say how you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
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26 Apr 2020 @ 22:56:37 pm
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Ek self gebruik nog die klein skottel selfs na ek my dekodeerder opgegradeer na extra view. Ek moes net die dinges dinges voor  die skottel verander het sodat hy twee arial kabels kan vat. Jy moet net beter korrel na die satelite toe.

Al die dekodeerder se funksies werk honderd.

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26 Apr 2020 @ 23:16:47 pm
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Small dish works perfectly I last used mine at Yellow Sands and gave it to my son in law afterwards as we don't watch DSTV anymore, only stream. 

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27 Apr 2020 @ 07:37:04 am
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Klein skottel in tas werk 100% op alle dekodeerders ek gebruik Explora 3 het ook 1 en 2 gebruik kamp die hele land regdeur .Nog nooit gesukkel om goeie sein tekry .Dit hang nie af van die grote van skottel dit berus by die persoon wat hom opstel .

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27 Apr 2020 @ 08:28:52 am
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Two years ago we were camping at Leentjiesklip when our neighbour pulled out a small dish such as the ones campers used to cart with for their previous generation decoders. 

I asked him if he has been successful using it recently, and he said he will show me that it works just fine. 

To my amazement he used the small Extra View decoder as a stand alone decoder and not long afterwards he was watching DSTV. I was wordless.

He told me he phoned Multichoice and for a fee they made the connection possible.

As jy jou main Decodeerder gebruik nie nodig om Mutichoise te skakel nie 

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27 Apr 2020 @ 10:30:59 am
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Het teveel gesukkel met dit, TV Bly by huis, kyk Na Bos TV.

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransies. (Parys - Frankryk)
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27 Apr 2020 @ 16:59:33 pm
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Jy kan die huis afsit en jou vakansie ern aan sit, geen ekdta koste.  Doen dit al vir jare.

Oppad na die volgende kamp.
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27 Apr 2020 @ 19:35:23 pm
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Klein skottel in tas werk 100% op alle dekodeerders ek gebruik Explora 3 het ook 1 en 2 gebruik kamp die hele land regdeur .Nog nooit gesukkel om goeie sein tekry .Dit hang nie af van die grote van skottel dit berus by die persoon wat hom opstel .

UTTER  NONSENSE. If a 30cm dish works 100%, what is the point of 80cm dishes. Your Satellite Meter will tell you the difference. Your Satellite Finder will not. It is not a meter. It is fine for camping, but do not enforce your opinion based it.

Robert asked for info on Openview. Not DSTV. They may be the "SAME" satellite but there is a  difference.

Please check your facts as you give lots of incorrect advice. 

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27 Apr 2020 @ 20:42:19 pm
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KD ek kan net dink wasrvoor staan die KD .Ek het jou gladnie gevra om.my te glo ,glo wat jy wil .Ek gebruik wel n meter wat ek altyd as installer ook gebruik het .Ek het meer skottel geinstalleer as wat jy oud is pel .Al wat ek jou sê die klein skottel werk net so goed .Geen kommentaar verder want ek weier om.tot jou vlak van intellegensie tedaal .

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27 Apr 2020 @ 21:00:46 pm
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 I Agree with Willie 54

The small dish work perfectly if you know what you doing. 

I only use the 30cm dish with no problem 

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28 Apr 2020 @ 08:24:07 am
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I have been using a 60cm dish and a cheap “finder”, with no problems. However, the dish is quite big to haul around and takes a bit of time to assemble, so I’ve been thinking of trying a small dish. So a few questions are:

Is using a meter recommended (versus a “finder”)?

Are meters expensive?

Or is it simplest to stick with the bigger dish and “finder”? 

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28 Apr 2020 @ 08:42:34 am
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i didn't know there were two types, i thought the cheap satellite finder / meter were the same thing.
two roads diverged in a wood and i took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
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28 Apr 2020 @ 11:16:49 am
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The difference between the 30 & 60cm dishes is purely performance. The best you can expect to get from a 30cm dish is 10,5dB C/N. Your decoder needs 8,5dB to find the signal. A 60 cm dish will give you 14dB C/N. The ber on the 60cm is far better. Your Satellite Finder responds to the change in if energy. 

From a mounting perspective the 30cm camping dish has a omni directional swivel. This blows in the wind. Your 60cm has a elevation clamp. Once set there is very little reason to touch it. You swivel the dish in the direction of the satellite. Beep and tighten your bolts. 2 minutes. Installation is easier. Every time.

My preference for the fibreglass dish is that most of them have one bolt that holds the lnb arm. It can also take physical abuse. Remove the arm and the dish goes flat on the floor, under the tent. Packing the Decoder and TV is a bigger problem. The only benefit of the camping dish is the suitcase. 

A Satellite Finder costs R300 - R700 and allows you to do simple installations to about 80% if you know what you are doing. You cannot do the LNB scew.

A Satellite Meter costs R3000 - R35000. Depends on what you want to do with it. 100% dish / lnb alignment.

Your combination is correct for your use. 

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28 Apr 2020 @ 12:58:04 pm
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The difference between the 30 & 60cm dishes is purely performance. The best you can expect to get from a 30cm dish is 10,5dB C/N. Your decoder needs 8,5dB to find the signal. A 60 cm dish will give you 14dB C/N. The ber on the 60cm is far better. Your Satellite Finder responds to the change in if energy. 

From a mounting perspective the 30cm camping dish has a omni directional swivel. This blows in the wind. Your 60cm has a elevation clamp. Once set there is very little reason to touch it. You swivel the dish in the direction of the satellite. Beep and tighten your bolts. 2 minutes. Installation is easier. Every time.

My preference for the fibreglass dish is that most of them have one bolt that holds the lnb arm. It can also take physical abuse. Remove the arm and the dish goes flat on the floor, under the tent. Packing the Decoder and TV is a bigger problem. The only benefit of the camping dish is the suitcase. 

A Satellite Finder costs R300 - R700 and allows you to do simple installations to about 80% if you know what you are doing. You cannot do the LNB scew.

A Satellite Meter costs R3000 - R35000. Depends on what you want to do with it. 100% dish / lnb alignment.

Your combination is correct for your use. 

now THATS an informed answer , and THIS is what this forum is about. unlike your first post we you appeared to leap out the start gate with blinkers on.

two roads diverged in a wood and i took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
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28 Apr 2020 @ 13:22:22 pm
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Last time I checked the small camp dish will not work with Open View. You at least need a 60cm dish.

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28 Apr 2020 @ 17:27:28 pm
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George. The gates where opened on 25 Oct in the topic "DSTV PUNTE OP STAANPLEKKE". The word ONSIN was used repeatedly.

Unfortunately the advice from the other party is seriously flawed. A person will only keep quiet for so long as I did then. Enough is enough. I may add a post to correct the flawed information. 

Errol. Openview is at a higher frequency. The higher the frequency, the higher the losses. The solution is a bigger dish.

I have been in the Communications industry since 1981. I am both MultiChoice and OPENVIEW accredited. I helped our local SABC OB's sort out their off air reception which then spread to the other regions. I even supplied them a suitcase dish. But the satellite is not what it was in the 90's.

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29 Apr 2020 @ 03:14:34 am
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Mense gebruik julle 30 cm skottels met die tas .Die tas en die skottel werk 100% moenie laat iemand vir jou vertel dit werk nie .Open view enige dekodeerder op die SA Mark werk 100% op die 30 cm skottel .Sit jou skottel behoorlik vas op jou staander wat inelk geval baie makliker is as om n 80 cm skottel vastesit .Die vervoer van jou 30 cm skottel baie geriefliker as jou 80 cm kolosale onnodige groot skottel veral vir ons mense wat baie kamp vir lank tye .Ek het al vir 4 maande by Leentjies klip gestaan in storm sterk winde geen probleme gehad met seine agv die wind .So ook op talle ander plekke .Bly by jou 30 cm skottel moenie verander na groot skottel resultaat bly dieselfde .Spandeer n paar rand aan n goeie meter en dit neem jou 2 min vir die instel van jou 30 cm skottel .HY WERK 100 % LEKKER KYK NA DIE LOCKDOWN GAAN ONS DIE 30 CM SKOTTELS WEER LAAT PRAAT .

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29 Apr 2020 @ 08:50:51 am
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George. The gates where opened on 25 Oct in the topic "DSTV PUNTE OP STAANPLEKKE". The word ONSIN was used repeatedly.

Unfortunately the advice from the other party is seriously flawed. A person will only keep quiet for so long as I did then. Enough is enough. I may add a post to correct the flawed information. 

Errol. Openview is at a higher frequency. The higher the frequency, the higher the losses. The solution is a bigger dish.

I have been in the Communications industry since 1981. I am both MultiChoice and OPENVIEW accredited. I helped our local SABC OB's sort out their off air reception which then spread to the other regions. I even supplied them a suitcase dish. But the satellite is not what it was in the 90's.


gosh......... all those years......... and you still dont know how to communicate .
two roads diverged in a wood and i took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
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29 Apr 2020 @ 13:19:35 pm
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Al die jare gebruik ek ook maar die klein skottel. Met die nuwer dekdeerders (Explora) sukkel jy om die nuwe LNB te lees. Ek stel steeds my klein skottel in met die ou enkel LNB, kry die beste sein en maak jou skottel goed vas. Sit nou jou explora LNB nou,op omdat jy reeds die sein het en koppel aan jou explora en geniet al jou kanale. Ek is nie n kenner nie,dit is maar my "boere" manier en werk 100% vir my.

Ons drink uit die piering want ons koppie loop oor.
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29 Apr 2020 @ 13:44:25 pm
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Hi Piet jy is reg ,wat werk hoef jy nie teverander .Boer maak n plan, ek hou van sulke goed .Jy het waarskynlik n Sat finder en n 2 poort LNB met 2 uniports .As jy byvoorbeeld n 4 poort LNB gehad het, kon jy op hom instel ,want hy het n universal port ook ,dan koppel jy daar ,maar Piet hou by jou manier dit werk vir jou 100 % ,waarom nou gaan geld spandeer op ander LNB .Lekker kyk op jou 30 cm skottel .

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29 Apr 2020 @ 14:36:53 pm
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George. The gates where opened on 25 Oct in the topic "DSTV PUNTE OP STAANPLEKKE". The word ONSIN was used repeatedly.

Unfortunately the advice from the other party is seriously flawed. A person will only keep quiet for so long as I did then. Enough is enough. I may add a post to correct the flawed information. 

Errol. Openview is at a higher frequency. The higher the frequency, the higher the losses. The solution is a bigger dish.

I have been in the Communications industry since 1981. I am both MultiChoice and OPENVIEW accredited. I helped our local SABC OB's sort out their off air reception which then spread to the other regions. I even supplied them a suitcase dish. But the satellite is not what it was in the 90's.

Ken this was a typical case of not reading the question properly! Never the less thanks for the info.

 

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29 Apr 2020 @ 15:22:42 pm
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George.

Way back in the 80's it was an in-house joke that while we were in the communications industry, we didn't communicate. I am not a diplomat. When someone irritates me I will generally just walk away, as I did on the 25/10. Eventually I will say something if enough nonsense is spoken. Interesting that I have not once recommended a 80cm dish for a caravan.

Errol

Do I let PietG and everyone else know how to make his installation easier and probably better. Or do I leave everyone to carry on with Willie54's boereraad ? 

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29 Apr 2020 @ 21:06:11 pm
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Thanks to all of you guys that was an interesting topic a bit heated at times but great reading and very informative.

So to make sure that I have it right.

1. no need to buy the suit case caravan dish. 

2. Would be cheaper to buy, 30cm fibre glass dish, and signal finder, from the local store. 

Please give me SMILEY FACE if my thinking is correct. 

Or SAD FACE to go 60cm.

Once again, GREAT FORUM 

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30 Apr 2020 @ 12:50:05 pm
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Ken. My understanding about a forum is that it is  a  place, situation and or group in which people exchange ideas and discuss issues. A place where problems can be solved. So your input was extremely important and appreciated.

 

December 2014 Camp
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