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06 Apr 2020 @ 13:20:28 pm
Paddyandpaul
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I know this is a woodwork question and not camping. Can anyone tell me if most jig saws have a commutator and brushes? My jig saw just stopped working after cutting one haunch on a tenon and i suspect it could be a brush worn out. My birthday is this month so ive asked my wife and daughter to buy another saw as it will probably cost much the same as getting the old one fixed. Who knows? Mine is only a cheap Ryobi.

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06 Apr 2020 @ 15:18:04 pm
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Ryobi is excellent products. Ive got a Ryobi drilling machine now for about 12 years and still working. Used it at home on sites etc.

My opinion is when a Ryobi pack up and it's not under warry, buy a new one because it's done it's share.

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06 Apr 2020 @ 15:21:41 pm
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Volgens my as dit borsels is hou hy nie oombliklik op werk nie. Jy hoor motor al vooraf motor funksioneer nie meer 100% nie en sien vonke uitkom by motor. Ek werk baie met Ryobi en moet sê hulle hou lank by my. Die bloues hou natuurlik beter as die groenes. Blou is meer kommersieel en groen vir huis houdelik. As jy weer koop, koop n blou een....jy gaan hom nie opgebruik vir huishoudelike takies nie

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06 Apr 2020 @ 15:50:47 pm
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Dis in die meeste gevalle...  die aan/af switch. As jy hom kan brug sal jy kan uitvind of dit so is.  Dan kan jy die repair shop dienooreenkomstig inlig. Ek glo al by die tyd daar is nie meer  eerlike mense daar nie,  of hulle is nie opgelei nie. Hulle gaan jou sè dit kan nie herstel word nie of jou overcharge vir n klomp ander goete.

Ek het ook n Ruobi..  goeie tool vir sy prys.  

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06 Apr 2020 @ 16:26:12 pm
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Most of my electric tools are Ryobi and some are good others average. Ive probably got about 6 Ryobi electric tools and the only really rubbish Ryobi i bought was a band saw.
It sounds like the jig saw does have brushes from what people say and by the time I have taken it to Ryobi in Durban and fetched it at a later stage after repair my petrol costs alone will be about R350 and a similar jig saw new R650 and then mabe it isnt repairable. Perhaps i must accept it has done its duty over the years and time for a replacement. Much prefer Bosch or Makita but they cost a lot more for similar.
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06 Apr 2020 @ 16:48:01 pm
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Get n new one and keep the old one for spares.

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06 Apr 2020 @ 20:38:56 pm
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Hi Paul, this might sound rediculas, but it has surprised me in the past, with things like Weed cutters and lawn mowers. open up the motor and check whether it is AC or DC the simplest thing to check for is a bank of rectifiers  = DC , then the rectifyer could be the problem. If it is AC and has brushes, then you can check them. unless you really use the saw a lot I don't think they will be your problem. At very least stripping will be fun during lockdown.     

Good luck

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06 Apr 2020 @ 22:49:48 pm
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Ek het wel 1x n boormasjien gekoop met die groen omhulsel....hulle noem hom die Handyline. Hy het nie baie lank gehou nie, maar ek het hom vir my werk gebruik waarvoor hy nie bedoel was nie. Die Handyline het ook net 1Jaar waarborg.

Die een wat ek normaalweg gebruik en baie gelukkig mee is, is die standard duty met die blou omhulsel. Hy is ontwerp vir "light industrial" werk en is vir 2jaar gewaarborg. Baie van my gereedskap gebruik ek op n daaglikse basis en hulle het reeds uit waarborg gehardloop en werk nog steeds baie goed.

Dan kry mens hulle "Heavy duty" reeks wat gemaak is vir "heavy industrial" gebruik. Hierdie reeks dra n 5jaar waarborg

 

 

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07 Apr 2020 @ 08:24:33 am
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Paul, I haven't seen any small hand tools without commutators and brushes yet.  If it is a cheapie, yours will be the same.  And I know from experience, once the commutator starts arching, there is nothing you can do about it but replace the whole unit.  With Ryobi you might perhaps be able to get new spare parts, but the cost will probably make it unpractical.  I therefore agree: replace and don't do like I usually do: keeping the old one for spares- just chuck it!

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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07 Apr 2020 @ 11:39:10 am
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Stem....vervang hom as hy reeds sy diens gedoen het. Vandag vervag jy "dit"....môre breek weer "dat". Op die ou einde gaan dit goedkoper uitwerk om nuwe te koop.

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07 Apr 2020 @ 13:12:17 pm
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We do live in a disposable society. I was an instrument tech in industry and the days of component level repairs on electronic equipment are over and you did card changes to repair things.

My tv is busy packing up at the moment as it has lines across the screen and the tv repair guy says chuck out and buy Hyosense or Sinutec as they all come from Korea. The cost of the cards and screen is not worth repairing.

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07 Apr 2020 @ 15:50:10 pm
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A jig saw will cost you R300+. 

When it comes to a TV I always tell my customers  "If it starts with a S or L, it must end with a G.

Yes more expensive. But when it comes to repairs, replacement remotes,  picture quality and operation it is a SAMSUNG or LG.

I have customers who have been bitten in the butt with both of those long guarantee brands 

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07 Apr 2020 @ 16:17:35 pm
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I am not that concerned about supposedly inferior TV's.  We have 32 and 40 inch Hisense TV's, both between 9 and 10 years of age being used daily.  They haven't given any problems up to now.  I know that spares for them are difficult to obtain so if they fail, that's it!  With higher rated TV's you might be able to have them repaired but it is possible that the cost will make it impractical.  And will they really outlast the Hisense? When we bought them at Hificorp,  we compared their picture qualities with other TV's of similiar size and we could not really see any difference.  If I cannot see the difference, it certainly does not matter. Anyway, if  they last for up to ten years, they were worth their price and I will not shed any tears when they break down. 

And by the way, if I am not mistaken, Hisense is designed and manufactured in China.  Most of the other brands might also be manufactured in China, but the companies' head offices are elsewere.

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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07 Apr 2020 @ 16:22:56 pm
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Hisense in Kaapstad en hul naverkoopdiens en pryse maak dit nou baie aantreklik

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07 Apr 2020 @ 17:26:12 pm
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I had a customer with a faulty 42" Hisense LED,  claimed it was 1yr old. He bought it from Fred's retailer. The receipt was not legible. The repair agent would only repair it as an out of guarantee repair if he could get spares. Repair time approximately 3 weeks. He confirmed that the model was inside the 4 Yr guarantee. The maid got the TV.

Customer lost a remote for a19" Sinotech LCD. Replacement quote was R450 cash +80 Km before they would order it. I have tried many different programmable remotes for these sets. If you find one that sort of works, the customer will reprogram it within a week.

 

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07 Apr 2020 @ 21:23:22 pm
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Hi Paul, re TV, we got a Sinotec 4 years ago which packed up last year, with very few questions it was replaced with a further 5 year guarantee.

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08 Apr 2020 @ 08:38:42 am
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Ken, I know that this retailer's receipts fade in time, therefore I always photocopy them immediately.  I rather doubt that they will fade within a year. My two more than nine year old tv's receipts are still legible- I am looking at them now.  I have bought a lot of stuff from Hifi over the years and the times when I had come backs, there was no hassles. 

As for spares, a few years ago I accidentily cracked the screen of a brand new Hisense TV.  I intended claiming it from insurance and went for a quote for repairs.  The repair shop told me a new screen would be impossible to get and regarded it as a write-off.  The insurance luckily accomodated me I think because I have never misused my insurance.

And by the way, if you can at least supply the date when you bought the item, they are able to trace it on their computer.

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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08 Apr 2020 @ 10:05:08 am
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Ken, I know that this retailer's receipts fade in time, therefore I always photocopy them immediately.  I rather doubt that they will fade within a year. My two more than nine year old tv's receipts are still legible- I am looking at them now.  I have bought a lot of stuff from Hifi over the years and the times when I had come backs, there was no hassles. 

As for spares, a few years ago I accidentily cracked the screen of a brand new Hisense TV.  I intended claiming it from insurance and went for a quote for repairs.  The repair shop told me a new screen would be impossible to get and regarded it as a write-off.  The insurance luckily accomodated me I think because I have never misused my insurance.

And by the way, if you can at least supply the date when you bought the item, they are able to trace it on their computer.

Ek hou van die idee om n kopie te maak van strokie....meeste van my ou strokies is ook baie onleesbaar.

Ek het n keer n grasmasjien by Makro gekoop. Toe ek probleem optel kon ek nie aankoop strokie vind nie. Makro kon dit op hul rekenaar stelsel optel onder my kaart nommer en kon my sodoende help onder waarborg 

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08 Apr 2020 @ 11:56:36 am
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My experiece with all my Ryobi products is their switches are mostly junk ,

Shredder - ok

Drill - ok

Planer -ok

Mitre saw - ok

Polisher - switch sometimes works sometimes not

Router - switch sticky often needs stripping and cleaning

Weedeater - switch burnt out twice

Jig Saw - switch stuck in closed position , runs when plugged in

Hedge trimmer - switch stuck in closed position , runs when plugged in.

I would strip it and see if there is power to the switch and then after the switch , I doubdt it is the brushes as I have never replaced the brushes on any of my tools , unless industrial ones used every day.

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08 Apr 2020 @ 12:36:19 pm
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This is an old GWM vs new Toyota Fortuna argument. Choices. I don't care if your Sinotech serves your needs. All I can say is that I have hit a brick wall trying to help multiple customers with unsolvable Sinotech problems. It invariably ends up being replaced.

On the other hand I took an LG with dead pixels the size of a match head in to LG. No paperwork. They told me that it was bought at Makro. They checked the model number and as there was no external damage, ordered a new screen and replaced it. No charge. I have never had to take a Samsung in for repairs. Anything older than 5 years is not usually worth repairing. 

If I supply a TV to a customer I will only get it from a supplier that keeps a computer record. They also know that I need 2 hard copies of the invoice. One for my books. The other I attach to the back of the TV.

Choices. I have 3 Samsung TV's. All past there sell by date with no issues. 

 

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08 Apr 2020 @ 13:22:55 pm
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Every person has his or her own experience with their stuff.  For one person  it gives good service while for another person it might turn out a dud. As you say, Ken, if a TV, even an LG, breaks after five years, it is not worth repairing.  From experience I am confident that a Hisense will last that long.  My daughter has a Sinotech for about three years now and no hassles yet.  I can however understand your frustration being unable to help customers with cheap TV's.

On Ryobi, I have had several power tools and a schredder from them over the years and have found them quite satisfactorily.  They were usually not the professional grade, but they lasted quite well without much bother.  I also have a professional grade Ryobi circular saw and this clearly is  a notch above the other tools. 

By the way, I have a two speed Bosch drill which I bought about 50 years ago.  At that time there were only one standard.  Although I do not use it much anymore due to it only having two speeds instead of the infinite speeds of the new ones, it is still in perfect working order.  At the lower speed it has torque that will make a Jeep blush and the gearbox looks sturdy enough for a motor bike. Over the years it was used for many things, inter alia to drive a circular saw attachment, a compressor attachment and a water pump.     Even under heavy load it never overheated to the point of cutting out.  No repairs were necessary yet. I wonder if even a top model new Bosch has this quality.

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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