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LR Defender TD5 & Gypsey Regal (Blue)

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13 Mar 2014 @ 20:15:31 pm
JvSchalkwyk
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Hello All.

Recently sold our first van, '83 Sprite Super Sport and now have a 2004 Gypsey Regal Blue.

I have a few towball/drop plate questions fro you experienced vanners out there.

I have seen that the van rides a bit nose high when attached to the Landy. In reading here on the forum I see that level or nose low is preferred. With the Landy being a high ground clearance vehicle I doubt I will be able to sort my level issue out. I have the towball on the lowest setting at the moment and have noticed that drop plates at van shops wont help my situation.

I am attaching a gallery of pics and would appreciate any tips or advice on what I might do to keep the rig stable. I got used to towing the much lighter SSport and am not sure what to expect on a longer trip with the Regal.

Any tips or advice is greatly appreacited. We are off to a Bela Bela resort for the upcoming long weekend.

Many thanks,
Jayson
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14 Mar 2014 @ 03:49:39 am
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Hi, how much would you have to drop to get you van level?. You could use the std ball hitch, this will drop by around 50mm or so, or I've seem others attach an additional drop plate.
Regards ELNOR (Else & Norbury)

Happy camping
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14 Mar 2014 @ 06:46:07 am
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Norbury there is realy little difference between the height of the STD tow ball and that wich is shown here. It would not have the desired effect.

Jayson I have to ask why you say that normal available dropplates will not work. Six hole will fit neatly over the lower four holes of the Landy and give you the nessesary drop for the towball on the then lower holes of the plate.

The only problem is when you go on a 4 x 4 route you will have to remove it. I have to do the same as the Ranger normal level is to high to tow the Classique.
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14 Mar 2014 @ 09:04:51 am
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Jason, I agree with Leon, you have a very sturdy fixture on the Landy, even side support at the bottom. I would firstly get combination on very level standing to determine exaxtly how much you must "drop", and if neede get a 8hole 15mm or whatever thickest drop plate, so tha tyou have at least 4 decent high tensile bolts to attach the drop plate, and tne same bolts to attach tow ball.

It is diffecult to judge from the pics, but I would say you need to drop at least 100mm. If you really want to spend some money, have the van fitted with spacers and upgraded axle to lift the van, and if still fitted with 13" wheels, go for 14".

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14 Mar 2014 @ 09:06:49 am
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Thanks guys,

Leon, that was going to be my next resort. Like you say, 4bolts to existing drop plate and then towball on to lowered drop plate.

Am also sure that it would then lower it enough to be level and not nose low.

What do drop plates cost? I am due to collect some stuff at Comet in Boksburg and have seen they have pretty thick 6hole plates there.
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14 Mar 2014 @ 09:42:44 am
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Hi Jason.

Why not simply replace the bottom swivel hitch with your or a standard towball hitch? (Last photo shows it very clearly)  There is lots of strength and stability there on the bottom set of bolt holes.Do you use the bottom swivel drop pin hitch? It does not look as if it has been used for ages. Do not lower the hitch with another drop plate!

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14 Mar 2014 @ 13:41:30 pm
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A std tow ball should give you about 50mm drop, if you dont need the swivel hitch,  try one before buying a drop plate however, having said that,  looking at your last photo,  you have good ground clearance which might be lost using a drop plate. 

Leon ons gebruik die ball and swivels kombinasies by die werk vir verskillende tipe sleepwaens, die dubbel tipe is so 50mm langer as die standaard ball haak. 

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14 Mar 2014 @ 13:57:43 pm
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Leon,  as mens mooi kyk na  Jason se fotos, dink ek jy is reg, 50mm sak gaan dalk nie voldoende wees vir "nose down"  nie. Drop plate is gaan dalk tog nodig wees hy het goeie grond vry hoogte.

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14 Mar 2014 @ 14:27:52 pm
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Johann, presies wat ek in my plasing genoem het, kyk na die hele plasing, met my voorstelle ten opsigte van hegboute ens.

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14 Mar 2014 @ 14:32:34 pm
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Jason, before you hurry to buy 6 hole, rather look if you can hook up nad measure as it is, rather go then for 8 hole, and stick to the 4 HOLDING bolts to the existing plate. I don't think 6 hole is going to be enough. You will only be sure if you hook up and measure. Rather go to towbar fitment centre, drop plates will normally  be cheaper there.

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14 Mar 2014 @ 14:40:19 pm
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Jason, instead of doing complete hook-up on very level surface like driveway or so, let van stand on the jockey wheel, hence giving you chance to lower until you see it is level or slightly nose down, then you measure to inside of the cup of the towhook of the van, and next measurement to the top of tow ball on vehicle, (if standard tow ball was fastened), giving you the correct figures of drop plate you will need.

I dont think your vehicle is going to drop more than 2cm when you hook up the van, so if you work on actual level measurements, van will be only a wee bit nose down on vehicle rear side drop.

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18 Mar 2014 @ 10:10:31 am
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Just an update guys.

I measured the height difference between the bigger towball and a std towball and it was only going to lower it about 10mm.

So, I attached a drop plate, attached bigger towball and it has clearly dropped the nose of the van quite a bit. I would be quite happy to tow it like this.

Just a comment about the "open holes' at the top of the drop plate. My intention was to use 4bolts to attach the drop plate, but the holes of the drop plate and the landies fitted drop plate do not align. I didn't want to use the first set of holes as this might lower the drop plate too far and therefore the vans nose too.

Am attaching photos of updated drop plate. Again, please feel free to deliver comments or suggestions.
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18 Mar 2014 @ 10:18:07 am
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Jayson, dit lyk vir my dit gaan werk, Jou wa loop mooi in lyn met die Landy se dak, en jy het die krag om daai wa te trek.

Keep us updated on your trips with that rig.

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18 Mar 2014 @ 10:24:37 am
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the line up and combo look good.

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18 Mar 2014 @ 10:47:37 am
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"Just a comment about the "open holes' at the top of the drop plate. My intention was to use 4bolts to attach the drop plate, but the holes of the drop plate and the landies fitted drop plate do not align. I didn't want to use the first set of holes as this might lower the drop plate too far and therefore the vans nose too."

For what it is worth, I dont see any problem with the setup as it is now, since your Landy's dropplate is properly supported. Your bolts holding the bottom dropplate is the weakest link, as long as they are of good quality steel, you should not have any issues.

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18 Mar 2014 @ 11:52:27 am
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Jayson, my dropplate se gate het ook nie opgelyn nie. Ek het dit ingevat en gevra dat gate toe gemaak moet word en dat hulle vir my nuwes moet boor. Nou gebruik ek al 4.

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18 Mar 2014 @ 12:46:03 pm
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Jayson, looks much, much better!!!!! I would also seriously advise as Kurt above, get the holes custom drilled at engineering firm, and if needed some holes closed. It will give you tremendous feel of security if you know you have the drop plate secured with 4 decent bolts.

It is for your own and your family's good, and if there is a need to sell the Landy some day, surely new owner will appreciate it.

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