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14 Apr 2020 @ 22:27:16 pm
Rodrigo
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Hi everybody, I'm new to the "caravan" world and suppose to do my first caravan trip over the Easter weekend, but unfortunately I could not go anywhere. As I don't own one I'm looking for one to buy when this lockdown is over. I'm married with 2 kids and I narrowed down the list to the Jurgens Palma due to the toilet/shower and price for the 2002/2004 models, ideally I want to spend less than 100k.

If you currently own one, what is your thoughts on it? Are you happy, do you recommend this model? Alternatively I looked at the Sprite Swing, but no toilet, so the Palma is my selected one.

I appreciate your comments.

 

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15 Apr 2020 @ 09:19:47 am
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Jy kan ook oorweeg om n Porta Potti saam te sleep in enige wa. Daar is n klompie lede hier op die forum wat daai roete volg

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15 Apr 2020 @ 09:33:53 am
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My thinking.

It sounds as if a toilet facility is a priority on your decision list.

Perhaps just some thinking aloud on that topic when it comes to children - a chemical toilet is meant for number ones only, except in emergencies such as roadside catastrophes. Secondly, it is for night time’s number one use.

Once the kids start using it on a daily basis the next thing is their mates also do so. And who is the toilet emptying and cleaning family member?

 

Be who you are and say how you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
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15 Apr 2020 @ 09:55:28 am
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Had a Palma for many years and I maintain that it is one of the most user friendly caravans I have ever owned. The shower is really not all that effective due to space and shape but the cassette toilet is a winner. One of the most stable tows as well . Buy one you wont be sorry!

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15 Apr 2020 @ 10:24:44 am
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Welkom hier op die forum.

Hoop jy vind jou wa....

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransies. (Parys - Frankryk)
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15 Apr 2020 @ 11:30:26 am
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Rodrigo welcome to the forum. Hope you find the ideal van for your needs. Just make sure Swambo is happy with the choice.

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15 Apr 2020 @ 12:05:03 pm
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Hi everybody, thank you all for the welcoming messages and replies. I know the porta-potti is essentially for #1, but my experience in camping in a tent and having to go to the common ablutions during the night or early in the morning (sometimes it rains) is not very convenient. There is the "inconvenient" of cleaning the cassete though.

Adding a porta-potti to another caravan model is also an option, I also looked at the Sprite Swing/Splash.

In any case I can't do much now with this lockdown, and even from May I'm not sure how the situation will be, I hope we go over it in a timely manner otherwise we all will struggle.

I'll an eye opened to the options in the market and eventually buy one in the coming months.

Cheers

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15 Apr 2020 @ 12:29:12 pm
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Hi everybody, thank you all for the welcoming messages and replies. I know the porta-potti is essentially for #1, but my experience in camping in a tent and having to go to the common ablutions during the night or early in the morning (sometimes it rains) is not very convenient. There is the "inconvenient" of cleaning the cassete though.

Adding a porta-potti to another caravan model is also an option, I also looked at the Sprite Swing/Splash.

In any case I can't do much now with this lockdown, and even from May I'm not sure how the situation will be, I hope we go over it in a timely manner otherwise we all will struggle.

I'll an eye opened to the options in the market and eventually buy one in the coming months.

Cheers

Also note that your tow vehicle will determine what size van you can legally tow.

Se dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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15 Apr 2020 @ 12:57:36 pm
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Een van ons forum lede het daai wasbak binne in sy Swing verwyder en n "klein huisie" daar gemaak waar sy porta potti binne staan.....dan het jy darem bietjie privaatheid

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15 Apr 2020 @ 14:35:28 pm
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Hi everybody, thank you all for the welcoming messages and replies. I know the porta-potti is essentially for #1, but my experience in camping in a tent and having to go to the common ablutions during the night or early in the morning (sometimes it rains) is not very convenient. There is the "inconvenient" of cleaning the cassete though.

Adding a porta-potti to another caravan model is also an option, I also looked at the Sprite Swing/Splash.

In any case I can't do much now with this lockdown, and even from May I'm not sure how the situation will be, I hope we go over it in a timely manner otherwise we all will struggle.

I'll an eye opened to the options in the market and eventually buy one in the coming months.

Cheers

Jurgens Penta is basically the same size and weight as the Palma just without the shower part.  In essence it means that you have more storage space inside the van AND there is a dedicated Porta Potti spot below the little seat beside the main bed.

This means that you still have the toilet option but without the wasted space of the shower.  The main reason why I call the shower wasted space is because members with a Palma rarely use the shower as the whole bathroom gets wet during the use of it and you need to basically dry off everything if you want to use the toilet only.

In the end the choice is up to you to make do with the info we have provided.

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15 Apr 2020 @ 16:13:11 pm
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Jurgens Penta is basically the same size and weight as the Palma just without the shower part.  In essence it means that you have more storage space inside the van AND there is a dedicated Porta Potti spot below the little seat beside the main bed.

This means that you still have the toilet option but without the wasted space of the shower.  The main reason why I call the shower wasted space is because members with a Palma rarely use the shower as the whole bathroom gets wet during the use of it and you need to basically dry off everything if you want to use the toilet only.

In the end the choice is up to you to make do with the info we have provided.

I agree with Leon. I sold my Palma in 2007 and bought a Swing. We have NEVER used the shower and the toilet was only used in emergency. A porta potti is maybe a better option.

Se dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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15 Apr 2020 @ 16:23:12 pm
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Jy kan ook oorweeg om n Porta Potti saam te sleep in enige wa. Daar is n klompie lede hier op die forum wat daai roete volg

Welcome to the forum.

When we bought our Penta we had the same dilemma. We went to PTA Caravans and they had a Penta & Palma standing next to each other. The Penta had more packing space and with the porta potty it was a sure winner.

Groete,
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15 Apr 2020 @ 16:30:16 pm
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Palma owners we spoke to rarely use the shower as it wetts the whole bathroom incl the toilet. They used it as packing space.

Leon summarized it very well above.

If you want a bathroom on the Palma chassis buy a Clasique.

Our Exclusive has a dedicated shower and separate toilet. That setup works brilliantly. But we are long term campers so we need a home away from home..not a holiday home.

Groete,
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15 Apr 2020 @ 20:11:16 pm
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Hi, 

  • My little knowledge tells me that your budget (100k) for the year models earmaked is too small for the Palma. Not unless if you buy from an individual which is dertriment and costly in the long run. Suggest you take your time as you have already mentioned and make sure you buy from a dealer who will provide a service and warranty for your safety.
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15 Apr 2020 @ 20:54:51 pm
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Welcome to the forum.

When we bought our Penta we had the same dilemma. We went to PTA Caravans and they had a Penta & Palma standing next to each other. The Penta had more packing space and with the porta potty it was a sure winner.

Hi Paul thank you for that, I'll also look at the Penta. I think I'll rent caravans for a few trips before buying..... also have to convince the wife!

 

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15 Apr 2020 @ 20:55:56 pm
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Also note that your tow vehicle will determine what size van you can legally tow.

Hi Hennie I drive a Ford Everest so it should be fine. Thanks.

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15 Apr 2020 @ 20:58:26 pm
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Jurgens Penta is basically the same size and weight as the Palma just without the shower part.  In essence it means that you have more storage space inside the van AND there is a dedicated Porta Potti spot below the little seat beside the main bed.

This means that you still have the toilet option but without the wasted space of the shower.  The main reason why I call the shower wasted space is because members with a Palma rarely use the shower as the whole bathroom gets wet during the use of it and you need to basically dry off everything if you want to use the toilet only.

In the end the choice is up to you to make do with the info we have provided.

Thanks Leon, it makes sense! I'll have a look at both!

Rodrigo

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16 Apr 2020 @ 07:25:18 am
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Hi Hennie I drive a Ford Everest so it should be fine. Thanks.

That should then not be a problem.

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16 Apr 2020 @ 10:58:50 am
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Rodrigo, the Jurgenses are 20mm wider than the Sprites. It makes a big difference for feeling of space inside. Wifeie must approve else you are looking for trouble!

Our best holiday caravan was the Penta. I believe it was also the top seller A few years ago.

Groete,
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16 Apr 2020 @ 11:55:47 am
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Rodrigo sterkte met soek van jou wa

Haak daai wa kamp bly koning
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16 Apr 2020 @ 13:53:41 pm
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As soon as you have decided what caravan is best for your needs we will be able to help with the search FOR THAT VAN.

Enjoy the looking and searching.  I always say that it is the next best thing to camping in the Van.

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18 Apr 2020 @ 15:57:02 pm
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Someone wanting to buy my Outlander in classifieds asks if it will tow a Palma ?

It is a 2.4 Gls Auto, what do the experts think?

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19 Apr 2020 @ 23:01:42 pm
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Happy wife, happy life.....  kiss...laughing

It is important to let the lady (ladies if you have daughter/s) decide on the built-in bathroom (Palma) vs porta (other models). We (SWAMBO) find the bathroom in our Palma very convenient and emptying/cleaning the porta tanks is done from outside the van, hence if any spillages (even a few drops), it is not inside the van. 

Bathroom is also very convenient for 'urgent' next to the road stops or when Ultra Cities etc are overcrowded or not too hygienic!!

The Palma in itself has lots of packing space, but bear in mind, the more packing space you have, the more weight you have to pull around and also the risk of exceeding your legal vehicle weights (GVM) on the road??

We have been the through a coupe of vans and our Palma is the all time favourite for various reasons, of which one is the bathroom/toilet. We have not used the shower and the bathroom serves well as an enroute storage for the laundry basket etc....

Good luck with your choice and I refer back to my opening statement - a fact of life!!!

 

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