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Jacking up a van

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26 Mar 2014 @ 12:03:21 pm
Gerd
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When I look underneath my van I see lots of wood , the axle and one or two metal beams (towards the inside of the van and therfore not suitable for jacking).

Where  does one put the jack, when jacking up the van ????

I did not see any confidence inspiring places !!!!! 

 

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26 Mar 2014 @ 12:39:04 pm
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UNDER THE AXEL IS THE BEST PLACE

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26 Mar 2014 @ 12:46:06 pm
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Axel it is, but if you have a flat and cannot quite get the jack under the axel, you will have use the stabalizer jacks to help.

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26 Mar 2014 @ 12:54:54 pm
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beste ding vir n van is daar opblass ball

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26 Mar 2014 @ 12:59:39 pm
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And how does this work?

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26 Mar 2014 @ 13:00:10 pm
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My dad once had a flat on his van, what he did was drop the front as low as possableput down the rear jacks then with the jocky wheel lift the front again and put the front jacks down. this then gave him the space he needed to change the wheel.

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26 Mar 2014 @ 13:03:10 pm
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Be very careful of using the jockey wheel as a lift, I tried this once and the whole mechanism popped out of the shaft. The top of the shaft is flanged and is not very strong and with time it will give.

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26 Mar 2014 @ 13:15:06 pm
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I must admit, my dada's van is a 1962 Cabson and was built to last.

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26 Mar 2014 @ 13:19:18 pm
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AVOID using the jockey wheel only in emergency it can bend your frame look at some vans they develope cracks thats from using the jacks to lift the vans wheels off the floor.

the blow up ball type is what you use when 4x4 ing in thick sand 

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26 Mar 2014 @ 14:47:42 pm
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When all else fails in an emergency, Back packer is correct - Drop the nose of the caravan, wind down the back steadies, lift the nose with the jockey wheel little bits at a time while winding down the front steady. If the cars jack will fit under the caravan's tow bar, this can be used to take the strain off the jockey wheel.

However, I doubt if Gerd will have too much of a problem with the jockey wheel popping as the Carvette 2 is one of the lightest caravans - a passing youngster may even be able to lift the front sufficiently to get something like the cars spare wheel underneath then allowing the steady to be wound down with relative ease.

The guys with the double axles may have a serious problem! When I had the Gypsey 5, I had a scissor jack for the caravan which was used more for levelling than emergency - fitted quite nicely between the wheels under the cross member.

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26 Mar 2014 @ 14:57:54 pm
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Gerd, do yourself the favour and use either Scissors jack or small bottle neck hydraulic jack underneath the AXLE!!!! The bottle neck jack might need a wooden block to stand one, especially on sand. It is not that heavy, and perhaps it will be worth it to get scissors jack and bottle neck for your trip to Namibia, rather safe and sure as to be stranded somewhere!!!

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26 Mar 2014 @ 15:22:35 pm
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My manual states that I can either place the jack under the axle or the frame just in front of the axle.

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26 Mar 2014 @ 15:32:19 pm
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Neill towed the caravan onto those yellow plastic ramps you put under the wheel that you use for levelling. (Can not remember what you call them) This helps lift the caravan and give space for the jack, then he fits a stand under the axle.
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26 Mar 2014 @ 16:45:15 pm
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If you use a bottle jack try and have a flange welded onto the top of the jack to give yourself a bigger area to place under the axle so if the van moves it will not fall off the jack 

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26 Mar 2014 @ 17:54:55 pm
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Thanks a lot, I have a scissors jack, which will fit under the axle in case of a flatty. .

I like the idea of a welded on bracket as the jack's bracket is rather small and flat  and the axle housing is round.

I will also obtain a bottle jack ----Just in case..................................

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26 Mar 2014 @ 19:56:58 pm
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Gerd, a piece of u-tube works well if welded ontop of scissors jack, otherwise get some piece of rubber to  put ontop of jack - see your other thread, I have replied there as well.

Man, magtag, stop om so te stress en vat die pad Namibië toe!!!!he-he-he

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27 Mar 2014 @ 02:52:36 am
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beste ding vir n van is daar opblass ball

. Only problem with this is it takes up lots of space.
Regards ELNOR (Else & Norbury)

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27 Mar 2014 @ 07:52:58 am
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To jack a caravan up is a point that was discussed numerous times but actually never under its own topic. If you have a relative "new" model caravan, I would say anything from the nineties on.(Stand to be corrected on the choice of year) It is possible that you can damage your caravan structure if you jack the van up at any point other than the axle. As these caravans has a modular type of chassis.

The corner steadies are not jacks they are steadies and are used to steady the van when stationary, not to carry the load of the caravan. Having said that if you use them to jack up the caravan in which ever way you do it. You stand a chance to damage them or even the structure of your van. (See topic crack above the door).

The following can be done to assit you in replacing a flat on your caravan:
1. Make use of a 2 ton trolley jack they are low enough to fit under the axle even when a tyre is flat.
2. I thing that is much easier is to use a caravan leveling step. That step that you would use to pull a wheel onto (3 Steps) when you camp near a river or dam. Usualy the stand is uneven towards the waters edge. Put it under the flat tyre. Pull the caravan forward untill the flat tyre is on the highest step. This way you will have more than enough space to fit close to any jack under the axle.
I don't tow my caravan with out anyone of these items.
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27 Mar 2014 @ 09:21:27 am
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Leon your note 2. is what I was talking about. It is a stepped ramp that you use when you park on uneven ground. There was an article somewhere on the forum on how to make a wooden one. Ours is a yellow plastic ramp purchased from Campworld.
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27 Mar 2014 @ 09:45:24 am
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Thanks  for all the good advice.

I remember last year in Krueger that one guy always travels with 2or 3 blocks of railway sleeper wood the dimensions of which are such that -if combined- he puts a scissor jack on top and then raises the front of the van at the ball socket.

The 3 pieces of hardwood are actually not very heavy (+/- 10 - 12 kg kg) and not very large.

3 pieces, because it gives flexibility.

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27 Mar 2014 @ 10:35:04 am
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Gerd I personally prefrefer the yellow ramps from camp world there is no chance they could slip, and come in a bag for easy stowing.

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17 May 2014 @ 13:16:02 pm
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My son bought a brand new Penta on the outdoor show some months ago.
The advice that Back Packer gave is still the way the FACTORY want you to jack up the caravan in case of flat wheel.
I assume that the frame and of course the dolly wheel is strong enough to do just that otherwise the will open themselves to damage claims.
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05 Jul 2014 @ 15:20:29 pm
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I bought myself the 2ton hydraulic bottle jack (small enough to place anywhere, the trolley jack is nice, but space?) for that purpose if ever encountered, and recently I also bought 2 "bokkies" to fitunderneath the axle as I see I get problems with my tyres when the caravan is stationary too long.. Just lift the weight off the wheels and keep it still stable - I believe this is ok?

Also feel that steadies can't really do the job, if I use the steadies to level the caravan, I just get problems afterwards with leaks etc. Now they only touch the ground with enough pressure just to keep the caravan from hopping around when walking in and out, if it level or not, I do not really care, the whole structure bends too much when trying to level it perfectly.. Point is, from my advice don't use steadies, use a jack under axle - for the long run

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06 Jul 2014 @ 14:04:42 pm
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The ball is stil the best, put the pipe  into the back pipe off the car, the caravan  lifts with the ball under it, as high as the ball can go, no broblem used on 4x4 with very good resolts

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16 Mar 2019 @ 15:00:04 pm
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Hi guys we are new campers and we just doing  our first weekend out just around the corner from home, just in case we had to abandon ship with two dogs, but we were very lucky to come to Umtentweni caravan park and they showed us how to set up our rally tent.

Anyway just to mention that you're chat taught me something thinking that the wheels had to be off the ground for storage and camping, never realised that I could bend or crack the caravan.

We bought a 2014 Sprite Swing a month ago, thanks again for the heads up on the wheels issue. 

 

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