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08 Sep 2016 @ 12:32:03 pm
Tom Sainsbury
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For me, feeding the tent/rally into and through the groove on the side of the caravan is one of the things that get progressively more difficult as I get older.
Does anyone know of a lubricant that can be applied to the groove or the tent to ease this process. It must of course not damage either the tent or the van.
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08 Sep 2016 @ 12:43:50 pm
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Tom, we make use of baby powder in the extrusion or you can get you a ''Wonderwiellietjie'', which you can purchase from the manufacturers of the Sherpa Tiny. I have one, which I can give you, but I have to look for it, because I have not used it for a very long time.

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08 Sep 2016 @ 13:23:15 pm
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08 Sep 2016 @ 13:58:33 pm
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Die babapoeier is nogal moeilik om in die groefie te kry, mens mors meer op die grond as wat daar ingaan.  Of is daar 'n maklike manier om dit in te kry, DK?

Werk die silicone spray goed, Geert?   Trek dit nie in die tent in en maak later merke nie?

Ons sukkel gladnie met ons afdak nie, maar as ons die voltent opslaan het ons definitief hulp nodig. 

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08 Sep 2016 @ 14:00:37 pm
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Tom years ago there was a product called "Tent-Easi" that was fixed to the extrusion and as you pulled the tent through the extrusion it fed the tent into the groove. I think with a combination of Lubricant in the extrusion the Tent-Eazi and the wonder wielietjie one could sort this painfull tiresome process out.

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08 Sep 2016 @ 14:06:20 pm
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Tom here is a pic of the TENT-EAZI

 

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08 Sep 2016 @ 14:52:41 pm
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Die babapoeier is nogal moeilik om in die groefie te kry, mens mors meer op die grond as wat daar ingaan.  Of is daar 'n maklike manier om dit in te kry, DK?

Werk die silicone spray goed, Geert?   Trek dit nie in die tent in en maak later merke nie?

Ons sukkel gladnie met ons afdak nie, maar as ons die voltent opslaan het ons definitief hulp nodig. 


Om tente in te ryg is een van sy "Specs". Kyk onder "silicon spray" daar is heelwat inligting
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08 Sep 2016 @ 15:02:01 pm
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The silicone is excellent, I even use it on the zips if they get difficult to handle.

The baby powder is also just as good, use a 1" or 2" paint brush to apply into the extrusion.

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08 Sep 2016 @ 15:41:09 pm
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Whenever we wash the van we also clean the groove and apply the silicone spray. Wipe the groove afterwards with a dry cloth to remove excess spray. Works for us.
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08 Sep 2016 @ 15:56:56 pm
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Thanks for the tips. I like the idea of the Tent-eazy. If I had one of them I could do the job on my own which would be wonderful.
To the guys who suggested silicone spray, I must ask if it does no harm to the canvas/waterproofing. Also, would you apply it to the tent and the extrusion?
I was once told by an old-timer to rub that part of the tent that goes through the extrusion with a candle. I am not sure that would work in very hot climates like ours.
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08 Sep 2016 @ 17:00:16 pm
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Thanks for the tips. I like the idea of the Tent-eazy. If I had one of them I could do the job on my own which would be wonderful.
To the guys who suggested silicone spray, I must ask if it does no harm to the canvas/waterproofing. Also, would you apply it to the tent and the extrusion?
I was once told by an old-timer to rub that part of the tent that goes through the extrusion with a candle. I am not sure that would work in very hot climates like ours.

Tom

I spray it in the groove and on the rope of the tent for many year and never had a problem.  Heve a look at this thread, click on the link.  Al the info is there and the web link.

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08 Sep 2016 @ 18:11:17 pm
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Hi Willem, thank you for the very helpful info & links you place for us. Really appreciated.
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08 Sep 2016 @ 22:09:51 pm
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Ek het ook die Herschell SS aangeskaf op advies van Wilsur. Dit maak niks aan die tent nie, inteendeel die tent ryg nou so maklik in , dit vat myself en Elma n minuut of twee dans die dak ingeryg.
Ek sprei ook op die zips van dit en dit werk wonderlik.

Rumatiek arms kry swaar met die tent. As ons die dak klaar ingeryg het , sit ons eers die swart koppellaars in met al die pale,. Maak die horisontaal pale wat met die bolletjie teen karavaan vassit styf. Dan eers tel ons die vertikale pale op en stel die hoogte. Nou het ons nie meer nodig om op n stoel te staan om die horisontale pale styf te maak nie.
As ons die dubbeltent opslaan , doen dieselfde met die voorste dak. As alles klaar is stel dan die hoogte met die vertikale pale, sit hulle in die koppies en anker een ve een op die grond vas.
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09 Sep 2016 @ 06:17:31 am
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TOP 'O THE MORNIN TO YA TOM...  (my but that rhymes up nice 'n neat)...laughing

Die babapoeier is nogal moeilik om in die groefie te kry, mens mors meer op die grond as wat daar ingaan.  Of is daar 'n maklike manier om dit in te kry, DK?

Werk die silicone spray goed, Geert?   Trek dit nie in die tent in en maak later merke nie?

Ons sukkel gladnie met ons afdak nie, maar as ons die voltent opslaan het ons definitief hulp nodig. 

Yip... Babypowder.... I've done that for more years than I care to remember...

Campride Constantia... Gypsey 4B.... Caravette 4..... Avion LT.... Slipstream... Jurgen's 400....Oh a whole bunch of them over the years...

Everyone's got their favorite spray / muti. I don't use spray... Seen too many tents with "oil marks" along the rope thingie... (there is a term for it but  the hydraulic fluid in my head's got an air-lock)...

YA-YA... Heard it all... But this or that works better'n this or that... gotta get that... must have that....

PHOOIE!... To me it's just another can of something one just gotta have...at  a hundred and plenty Zupta's 

Baby powder / foot powder........ Cheap & readily available

Freda, so klein kwas & so klein ronde hourtjie waarin die kwas kan pas... Kwas die hele lengte van die beading....

Wonderwielitjie works like a dream... turns a 3 person swearing / sweating job into a one-man look-at-me-with-a clever-smile-on-my-face breeze...

Can make your own with a little window awning type pulley, an M4? / perhaps it's a M5 bolt, that get's a whack with a hammer in a vice and a wee bit-of filing / grindin... seriously takes 1/2H .... Been there done that....

 

Slightly quicker downhill....
These days a teeny-tiny bit more slightly quicker....
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09 Sep 2016 @ 16:28:47 pm
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Hi Warren, thanks for your input.
I must say that your poetry is much better than your technical description of how to make a "wieletjie/pulleytjie" dingetjie.
That one (as they say in the classics) was as clear as mud. 😂
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09 Sep 2016 @ 17:26:50 pm
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Hi Warren, thanks for your input.
I must say that your poetry is much better than your technical description of how to make a "wieletjie/pulleytjie" dingetjie.
That one (as they say in the classics) was as clear as mud. 😂

hehehehe

Tom sorry mate, but I get yelled at with my long posts so I'll give it a bash..

take one of thos cast aliminium awning pullies that they use on those outside retractable awnings that curve down from above the window.

The pulley is around 50 or so mm in diam...

Use (I'm not shure, it's either a M4 or M5) (but the shaft part will slide through the beading while the head head of the bolt will stay on the inside of the beading.

The head on the inside of the beading acts as the "lock" to stop the pulley from sliding.

You will need to bend the shaft of the bolt +- 90 Deg so that the pulley lies alongside the beading (at the other end) IE your pulling chord will run through the pulley. not that the pulley stands at 90 deg to the direction of the pulling chord.

The trickey bit is to attach the open end of the bolt to the pulley, housing. I can't explain that, depends on the pulley you have.

Mine had one of those little metal loops around which the pulley housing swivelled, so I just fastened the bent bolt through that...

I'll post a pic of the pulley I had I've just copied it of the net.

You may have to grind the head of the little bolt a bit to get it to fit into the beading...

Use chord as a means to lengthen the end of the rope that you pull when you slide the tent through the beading,  it must be the full length of your van annd back again

Assemble the pulley into the beading at the far end, thread the chord through the pulley and take it back to the start side, and as you pull you feed the tent into the opening of the beading. If you feed it from the bottom almost vertically up, you can get a good run before you have to take up the slack on the chord and lower your feeding hand for the next bit.

Just work slowly..

I found the best results are by positioning the pulley at the curve of the beading on the other side , and when the tent get's there, re-position near the opening (in-gly-gleef) at the other end..

Ok I'll pick up again on Moaning day...

 

 

Slightly quicker downhill....
These days a teeny-tiny bit more slightly quicker....
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09 Sep 2016 @ 17:28:02 pm
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Pulley

Slightly quicker downhill....
These days a teeny-tiny bit more slightly quicker....
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09 Sep 2016 @ 21:58:10 pm
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Hi Warren ek gebruik ook n soortgelyke "wielietjie" . Maak hom met n tou aan die handle vas en trek die pulling tou oor die wielietjie.
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10 Sep 2016 @ 04:46:50 am
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Ons is verby die R50 of R100 rand spaar. Sit agter oor en my tent word opgeslaan onder my wakende oog.

Ek is daar om te kamp en te geniet en terselfde tyd skep ons werk. Met afslaan tyd is dieselfde mense daar en alles word skoon gemaak en netjies gebere. Ek het hulle selfoon nommers en wanneer ek by standplaas kom wag hulle vir my.

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10 Sep 2016 @ 08:40:42 am
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Jip dit klink ook ve my na die ding om te doen, maar di diens is beperk tot sekere kampe soos ATKV byvoorbeeld. Daar is ander ook. Villa spa het dit ook.
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10 Sep 2016 @ 08:50:58 am
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Colin begin ook deesdae al hoe meer uitkyk vir hulp as ons arriveer.  Hy sit nie self heeltemal agteroor nie, maar laat die helper die moeiliker werk doen.   M.a.w. die helper doen wat Colin altyd doen en Colin doen wat ek altyd doen.laughing  Dan kan ek rustig al my goedjies regkry.  Soos Tonki sê, die werkers is ook baie dankbaar vir daardie noot wat hulle verdien en dit spoor hulle sommer aan om behulpsaam te wees tydens jou verblyf.  Dit maak Colin net vies as hy met een van hulle gereël het om, die dag wat ons oppak, weer te kom, hy beloof hand en mond en dan daag hy nie op nie.  

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10 Sep 2016 @ 09:00:28 am
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Freda,, se vir Colin hy moet hom die helfde van n R100 noot gee, dan kan hy die ander helfde kry as hy kom afslaan want hulle doen dit aan n mens en dit maak my ook lekker moerig.
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10 Sep 2016 @ 09:01:25 am
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Thanks for your input Warren. I really appreciate it. I was still struggling to get it until the picture arrived. Now the mud is gone & I only have the clear. 😁
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10 Sep 2016 @ 16:50:22 pm
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Tonki die helpers het ook die laaste tyd die kampeerders begin uitbuit. Januarie vanjaar op Hartenbos was hulle tarief vir opslaan alleen R350.00. Enigiets meer soos nog help stoele en goed uitpak dan raak dit R500.00. Ek weier nou. Hulle noem hulleself die "rustas". Hulle sit vir jou oorkant die pad en kyk en werk nie vir minder nie. ATKV se hulle werk vir hulself en hulle kan nie inmeng nie. Dit is seker reg so maar dan sou ek se hulle moet kompetisie toelaat. Die bedrag is wat my betref belaglik..........ek stem vir die R50.00 of R100.00 waarvan jy praat maar vir meer sal ek en ma dit maar self doen.
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10 Sep 2016 @ 17:05:02 pm
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Sekondeer Piet.
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10 Sep 2016 @ 18:50:49 pm
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Nee wat, soveel sal ons nooit in der ewigheid betaal nie.  Dan doen ons dit self.  Laat hulle maar sit en kyk, hulle sal die verloorders wees, nie ons nie.laughing

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11 Sep 2016 @ 18:39:44 pm
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Ek byl 'n "sucker for punishment" daarom verkies ek maar die sweet.

Oppad na die volgende kamp.
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12 Sep 2016 @ 06:36:10 am
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Thanks for your input Warren. I really appreciate it. I was still struggling to get it until the picture arrived. Now the mud is gone & I only have the clear. 😁

Hi T... Like I said, I get it in the neck for long posts..

With reference to Tonkie's post... It's not the R50 / R100 savings, It's the loss of the fun you have from doing thing's yourself, and when you've left the darn thing behind, having that "light-bulb-moment" and "maak-n-plan" that I can't afford....

This may hi-jack the thread....

Personally, I subscribe to "if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen," or, to put it another way, "If you can't handle it on your own your're punching above your weight, and probibly trying to keep up with next-door."

And, as the song goes "and that don't impress me much".............

1) let's say I'm fiercely independent and self reliant. All my life. It's my comfort zone. I don't want help. Just let me alone to enjoy my ido-centric comfy zone...

2) It's now way more than R100, especially when 3 or 4 rock up. And the same to break camp...

3) Where I to have such a complicated / heavy / cumbersome / whatever about my rig it is that causes me to be dependent on assistance rig every time I set or break camp, it would seriously inhibit my outdoorsing alternatives, to only those places. (which, for the most part, I avoid like the plague), so I simply have to be independant. (That's the reason I have and carry so many resources......

(Way smaller rig, more recovery and other resources)...

But hat's just me..... Wacky Warren..

 

 

 

 

 

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12 Sep 2016 @ 07:13:16 am
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Warren, nou het jy ons lui en gemaklike mense lekker in die bek geruk.laughing   It is true, one should be independent and for the most part we probably are, it is just when the mussles and bones become dependant, that we have problems.yell

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12 Sep 2016 @ 08:17:30 am
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Warren when you are like me, any work is punnishment. I said to my parents I was created on a long week end, and thus was born lazy. If I can get help, or something a working gimmic or so to help me with the job at hand I will jump at it. I am currently looking for someone to make a "TENT-EAZI" for me as they are no longer available. I have a "WONDERWIELITJIE". Just think how easy it will be if all you have to do when feeding the tent through the extrusion, is the initial feed at the start, then you just pull on the rope as every thing else is done for you. laughing What a pleasure.  

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16 Sep 2016 @ 18:07:28 pm
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ColinFreda, om die poeier op n baie eenvoudige manier in die tent geut te kry het ek vir my n plastiek bottel gekry met spuit (sien foto). Dit werk maklik en die mors is minimaal.

 

 

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16 Sep 2016 @ 18:38:46 pm
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Thanks Andalucia. That looks like a very cost effective solution that looks very easy.
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16 Sep 2016 @ 18:44:32 pm
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I see what my predictive text keyboard did above. Sorry Andal.
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16 Sep 2016 @ 20:38:17 pm
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ColinFreda, om die poeier op n baie eenvoudige manier in die tent geut te kry het ek vir my n plastiek bottel gekry met spuit (sien foto). Dit werk maklik en die mors is minimaal.

 

 

Brilliant idea, just shows how creative campers think.laughing

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