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Diens van karavaan wiele

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11 Feb 2020 @ 07:13:08 am
Buks Venter
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My Echo Kavango staan vir meer as twee jaar. Ek wil die wiele laat dies voordat ek weer ry en is op soek na iemand wat dit by my huis kan kom doe. asb.

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11 Feb 2020 @ 07:29:15 am
Leon
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Shoe Buks jy ly seker al aan ontrekings simtome vir kamp.  Goeie idee om dit te laat diens.  Ek self het nou nie meer 'n kontak no van so iemand nie maar ek dink daar is 'n advertensie in die wegsleep  tydskrif van iemand wat kan help.

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11 Feb 2020 @ 07:52:53 am
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Belangrik dat daardie wiele ten minste nagegaan word en mooi met nuwe ghries gepak word. Wielmoeilikheid is maar algemeen op die pad en niemand van ons wil dit hê nie.  

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11 Feb 2020 @ 09:51:23 am
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Kyk onder active topics Hans mobile service hy diens my karavaan elke jaar

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11 Feb 2020 @ 10:30:00 am
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While on the subject, I was going to start a new thread on an old subject as a reminder.

We last used the van in October and it has been standing under cover since then.

This morning I jacked it up onto stands, which I usually do when it is not in use for a few months and already there are flat spots on the tyres. The pressure is still 2.6 Bar and I am sure these spots will disappear. I do not think there is any permanent damage to the tyres, but in future I must jack it up as soon as we get back.

 

While it is on stands, I give the wheels a turn every week or so to keep the bearings moving.

I even move the Ventertjie around every now & then for the same reason.

 

I remain convinced that by doing this it is not necessary to have the wheel bearings 'Serviced' every time you go on a long trip.

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11 Feb 2020 @ 10:34:19 am
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Kyk onder active topics Hans mobile service hy diens my karavaan elke jaar

Sal ook Hans aanbeveel.

Se dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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11 Feb 2020 @ 10:45:59 am
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John, the flat spots does in fact smooth out after a few kilos.  I have had the situation where I towed our Venter trailer empty after it stood for quite a while.  For the first few kilos I could hear the the trailer rattling on a smooth highway and the gradually the sound disappeared.  With a loaded trailer probably will not rattle audibly. I do believe standing on the tyres for extended periods of time does harm the tyres.  Our caravan I do lift but it is not that practical to lift the trainer and as the weight of this is quite low, I do take a chance with it.

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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11 Feb 2020 @ 12:47:38 pm
Leon
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While on the subject, I was going to start a new thread on an old subject as a reminder.

We last used the van in October and it has been standing under cover since then.

This morning I jacked it up onto stands, which I usually do when it is not in use for a few months and already there are flat spots on the tyres. The pressure is still 2.6 Bar and I am sure these spots will disappear. I do not think there is any permanent damage to the tyres, but in future I must jack it up as soon as we get back.

 

While it is on stands, I give the wheels a turn every week or so to keep the bearings moving.

I even move the Ventertjie around every now & then for the same reason.

 

I remain convinced that by doing this it is not necessary to have the wheel bearings 'Serviced' every time you go on a long trip.

The fact is you are doing maintenance, even if it is just by turning the wheels.

In the SANDF there are maintenance schedules to be done each month on vehicle that are stationary.  If its not done we usualy say "Die voertuie staan hulle self stukkend".  This implies that the wheels are lifted of the ground and the wheels are turned regularly.  Vehicles in the depot even has color markings on the 12, 6, 9 and 3 o'clock positions.  The wheels should then be turned each month and stopped on a new color marking.  Al this to prevent oil seals to dry out and flat spots on tyres and old oil to become sticky.

Maintenance is the key.  ............................ then a question......................

Who will go to his caravan at least once a month either hitch it to the vehicle tow it around the block and park it again?  Or jack it up turn the wheels and store on a different side of the travel surface?

Lifting the wheels slightly of the ground, not only prevent a flat spot on the tyre but it makes the turning of the wheels easier for a bit of maintenance.  These actions will surely save you money in the long run.

Sonder Jesus is ek niks! ! ! !
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11 Feb 2020 @ 13:00:27 pm
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Kyk onder active topics Hans mobile service hy diens my karavaan elke jaar

Baie dankie, ek sal met Hans opvolg.

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11 Feb 2020 @ 13:36:21 pm
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My 2c. As jy bearings uit haal sit nuwes in ek glo nie daaraan om bearings skoon te maak en weer te pak nie. Daai bearings is goedkoop in vergelyking met nuwe as. Kyk desember meeste mense wat wiele verloor het was die wa onlanks gediens. dis my seining maar elke person moet self besluit. Op die boot duur manier geleer om low bed te kry om boot te op te laai tot waar ons boot kon los 500km huis toe en dan weer week later terug met te ry met nuwe as. Op boot vervang ek bearings as ek see toe sleep en as ek weer terug ry huis toe.

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11 Feb 2020 @ 13:57:52 pm
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Stem saam ski sit eerder nuwes in

Haak daai wa kamp bly koning
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11 Feb 2020 @ 16:49:54 pm
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As hy staan kos hy jou geld.

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransies. (Parys - Frankryk)
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11 Feb 2020 @ 17:42:03 pm
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John, the flat spots does in fact smooth out after a few kilos.  I have had the situation where I towed our Venter trailer empty after it stood for quite a while.  For the first few kilos I could hear the the trailer rattling on a smooth highway and the gradually the sound disappeared.  With a loaded trailer probably will not rattle audibly. I do believe standing on the tyres for extended periods of time does harm the tyres.  Our caravan I do lift but it is not that practical to lift the trainer and as the weight of this is quite low, I do take a chance with it.

Do you lift the Skipper when it stands, not sure you are referring to it when you say caravan?

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12 Feb 2020 @ 06:53:36 am
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Ja Leon, this is probably where I got my habit of lifting & rotating. 

I was a Tiffy back in 1971!

I wonder how much of that is done in the weermag today?yell

Paul, it does not matter about the weight on the axle. If a vehicle / trailer or what ever stands for extended periods, the rollers in the bearings microscopically form indents in the cup side of the bearing which is the start of the failure.

 

My flat spots are gone already, by the way.

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12 Feb 2020 @ 07:16:14 am
Leon
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Well all maintenance in SA is going for a loop. So I do not think much of such maintenance is still performed in the SANDF.  I could be wrong.................... but take the condition of the running vehicles................ those standing still....... ? ? ?

My 2c. As jy bearings uit haal sit nuwes in ek glo nie daaraan om bearings skoon te maak en weer te pak nie. Daai bearings is goedkoop in vergelyking met nuwe as. Kyk desember meeste mense wat wiele verloor het was die wa onlanks gediens. dis my seining maar elke person moet self besluit. Op die boot duur manier geleer om low bed te kry om boot te op te laai tot waar ons boot kon los 500km huis toe en dan weer week later terug met te ry met nuwe as. Op boot vervang ek bearings as ek see toe sleep en as ek weer terug ry huis toe.

Jip elke ou met 'n boot of wat 'n boot gehad het dink dieselfde.  Mens leer baie vinnig.

Ek het ook die laers vervang eerder as net skoon maak.  Dis bietjie werk maar dit verskaf baie meer gemoeds rus.

Baie belangrik ek het dit self gedoen.

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12 Feb 2020 @ 07:40:12 am
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My twee sent insetsel; Ek het so week gelede my 2010 Classique se bande vervang, net omdat hulle 5 jaar oud is....ek het n erge surprice gekry by die bande handelaar toe ek die ou bande in detail bekyk het.

1. Die spaarband wat 7 jaar oud is en maar net 480kilos geloop het se binne wand is reg rondom gekraak net onder die dik rand.......so beslis daar gebars het as aanhou gebruik het....

2. Die regterkantse band wat 5 jaar oud is, het in sy middelste deel van die loopvlak binne in die groewe krake en lyn barste gehad.....ook fattaal en wag net om te bars....

Die streeks bestuurder van Dunlop in Gauteng sê toe vir my die spaar se binnekraak is van die jare lange 3.5 bar gepomp hou en nie gebruik nie... en die regterkantste band se loopvlak krake is van staan op een plek vir lang tydperk......dus daardie flatspot areas. So as jou wa vir twee jaar op sy bande gestaan het moet jy asb vir jou eie veiligheid laat kyk na die flatspot gedeelte vir dieselfde krake as wat ek nou gesien het op my.

 

Leon en ander kampmaters;p Nou weet ek hoekom ek n band gebars het nou tydens my terugkeer van Mosselbaai net voor Bloem. As ek die toestand van daardie lynkrake in the groewe van die band se loopvlak in aanmerking neem is dit presies wat gebeur het....en is dit Jesus se genade dat die regterkantste band nie OOK gebars het tydens my terugtog nie.....

Bande wat nog mooi loopvlak groewe het op en goed lyk IS NIE SO GOED EN VEILIG soos dit mag lyk nie.....laat die spesialiste vir jou kyk en jy sal skrik!!

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12 Feb 2020 @ 13:07:20 pm
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Phil ek het dieselfde "Surprise" gekry op my Penta.  Ek en my broer het ons Penta karavane op dieselfde tyd gekry.

Hy het op 'n trippie warmbad toe waarskuwing gekry dat die karavaan band pap word deur mense wat hom verby kom.

Band gewissel maar dit wat hy gesien het was dieselfde soos jy omtrent beskryf.  Hy het my gewaarsku en ja daai krake was duidelik sigbaar tussen die groewe van die bande op my karavaan.

Volgens die bande plekke word dit "separation" genoem.

So leer mens maar met die tyd. 

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12 Feb 2020 @ 13:28:23 pm
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I wonder how many people regrease their caravan or trailer wheel bearings. I had my Sherpa about 8 years before i had them clean and regrease the bearings. I sold it after 9 years  and never rotated the wheels except when we went camping every 4 months.The guy who bought it from me had it regreased immediately. He must have had a bad experience or knew someone who had.

I think it is by talking on the forum that you realise greasing bearings and replacing tyres every 5 years is so important. The guy who bought my Fibretrail trailer after 8 years had 2 tyre blow outs with the original tyres. It hurts to throw tires out when the tread depth is like new.

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12 Feb 2020 @ 14:46:15 pm
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Yes PaddyandPaul, it surely does hurt a lot....but believe you me, when you have a blow-out on a  37 degrees hot day, and the tar road you need to work on to change the blow-out is extremely hot with the passing traffic been like a train....then it makes 1000% sense to rather take the pain and throw them away.

Even that spare-wheel you never used in its 5 years life span, which still has the little rubber tits indicating it has never been used over the past 5 years....even that one you need to replace with new after 5 years. Its damn hard guys with the prices we have to pay for the replacements. Imagine, you haven't changed the spare-wheel....then having to use it in its extended life-span beyond even the 5 years, and it also blow-out after a few kilos on your trip....what then?? then you'll regret your mistake made not to change it when it was due to be changed!!

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12 Feb 2020 @ 15:41:58 pm
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Regtigwaar ... hierdie onderwerp is soveel male bespreek??

Ons het vroeër verskeie uitgebreide toetse gedoen by die laermaatskappy ({"bearing company") waar ek gewerk het.

Die bevindinge was as volg:

1. Voertuig/karavaan op konkreet blokke of gras het geen tot weinig vibrasie op die wiellaers opgetel. Voertuie wat op matte staan (selfs op vol konkreet) het ook bitter min vibrasie opgetel

2. Ergste vorm van vibrasies op wiele was op harde oppervlaktes - veral (volle) konkreet, maar minder op teer oppervlakte.

3. Beste aanbeveling is om wiele se lading te verlig deur óf bokkies onder die aste te plaas vir lang stoor periodes (>6 maande plus) of hoekstutte in die geval van karavane. Ook 'n goeie idee om wiele se maksimum druk met 20% te verlaag om vibrasie op te neem wanneer voertuig sonder die bg. apparate moet staan.

Vir sleepwaens wat bote in water (en seewater) moet lanseer is dit beter om die olieseeltjie OM te draai (veertjie na BUITE) om te keer dat water nie die laer penetreer nie. Sien ook vorige beskrywings in die verband.

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12 Feb 2020 @ 15:59:05 pm
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So leer ons almal deur dit wat ons mede-karavaangebruikers op die harde manier ervaar het So diens en onderhou die duur bate

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