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Crazy woman wants to tow a small caravan with her Nissan Tiida 1.6 Visia H35

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01 Jul 2019 @ 12:21:20 pm
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Hi, Please advise me what brands and types of caravan I would maybe tow with my car? I have read that the vehicle can tow 4309 Kg. What makes fit into this category for example? Advice much appreciated. Marina

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01 Jul 2019 @ 12:37:09 pm
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Hey.

Welcome here.

First. 

You have to look at your car's tare weight.  The tare weight is on the disc on the window.

You can tow only a caravan with less cross weight as the tare of your car.

Your driving license. Is it a EB. You can only tow a caravan with a weight greater then 750 kg.  with a EB license.

Please check on the disc for the tare weight on your car and come back to us. There will be someone from that point that can help.  Help is available, thats for sure.

 

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01 Jul 2019 @ 13:15:12 pm
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Welkom op die forum. 

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

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01 Jul 2019 @ 13:15:56 pm
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THAT IS A LOT OF WEIGHT! Fully loaded my caravan will approx be 1600 kg only, are you sure about the FOUR TONS? The BIGGEST caravans will fit into this category.

Marina you will have to decide what DO you want to tow and what CAN you tow. Be careful of someone who wants to sell you a product just for selling. I suspect that you do have friends who are already caravan-ing, but for THAT weight of towing capability you should try to borrow a caravan for a weekend and have an experienced friend with you.

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01 Jul 2019 @ 13:35:45 pm
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Marina welkom hier by ons op die forum. Op 'n ligter noot.............The total mass or Gross vehicle Mass (GVM) of my Sensation is about 2150kg and that of an Exclusive about 1900kg.  A caravan weighing 4309kg is going to be a real monster.

So I suspect that the Gross Combined Mass (GCM) of the Tiida is the 4309kg.  If so then you need to subtract the GVM of the Tiida from this and it will tell you what you may tow according to the manufacturer Nissan.

The Tara weight as explained by Oom jeep is a very good way to get to the size caravan.

What code license do you have?

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01 Jul 2019 @ 16:44:12 pm
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Thanks Guys. Just went outside and checked out the disc on the car it says Tare 1100kg GVM 1500kg. Website called uktow.com gave 4309kg so that must be the GCM as you say above Leon. My driver's license is code EB.

What options do I have that can be towed either that I want to hire or borrow like Dansan suggests and eventually to buy secondhand? Yes I'm sure you are thinking "wow, now she is in for a whole heap of trouble" ... that's why I joined your great group, that I only found this morning even though I've been contemplating this for months now.  Getting a bit on for tent only, small caravan for 2 or 3 would be great. Would love to take my 81 year old Dad who is still body surfing! So fantastic to be able to speak to the experts themselves!

I need a new adventure! and willing to learn new things everyday.  I promise to ensure I don't end up being one of those irritating women who just bother everyone incessantly. Thank you so much for today's advice.

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01 Jul 2019 @ 17:14:39 pm
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Welcome Marina.

You can legally tow a caravan with a maximum (GVM) mass equal to your Tarra which is 1100Kg. This will limit you to the very small caravans. New, some of the Sherpa's & Panther's will be what you will be looking at. Second hand some of the Sprite sport's and Gypsey Raven and Jurgens Expo.

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01 Jul 2019 @ 17:16:52 pm
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There is also now a Gypsey Tiny that is below 750Kg GVM.

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01 Jul 2019 @ 17:19:05 pm
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Marina, It looks as if you will be able to tow a caravan, fully loaded, weighing a maximum of 1100Kg.  I am not an expert on this, but if I have it wrong, I am sure I will be corrected. If this is indeed correct, you will have to look at quite small caravans.  It seems to me caravans have become heavier lately.  Our 1984 Sprite Supersport  had a gross, that is allowable loaded, mass of 950 Kg with sleeping space for four adults and two children.  Similiar caravans today are a bit heavier.  You might be interested in the Sherpa Tiny and similiar ones- the Scotty and Panther.  They are very light and small built for only two people but a little bit unconventional. Look for them on Internet.

To advise you on specific models might not be the best way forward.  Your personal tastes and requirements should lead you.

I don't know whether you are thinking about buying new or second hand.  New caravans are getting rather expensive, but you should find good used caravans for under a 100 thousand rand.  To get an idea of what to look for, I would suggest going to second hand caravan dealers and have a look at what they have got.  There should be several in your vicinity.  Don't look to buy immediately, just sample the market.  Do look at the weight plate somewhere on the tow shaft.  Once you have an idea what caravans would be suitable, perhaps you can look out for a good private buy.  But used caravans might suffer from wood rot or collapsed suspensions on the ones with rub-ax suspensions.  So seek out someone that knows caravans in your area.  Asking on this Forum might even turn up someone willing and able to assist you. Don't blindly trust second hand dealers- they are in the market to shift their stock, not necessarily to treat you fairly.

If you intend buying new, one of the caravan magazines should have a list of caravans on the market which will include weights.  Once you have an idea what you are looking for, visit the chosen make's nearest agency and see what they look like in real life.

You have joined a friendly group of people eager to assist new comers- make use of this and please let us know how you progress.  Don't even think about being irritating.

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01 Jul 2019 @ 17:27:43 pm
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Hi Fred, Thank You for the detailed advice, for taking some of your personal time to help me. Very much appreciated. I am writing notes in my notebook of all the individual pieces of advice I am getting and will be careful to follow it all. Thanks Again Marina

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01 Jul 2019 @ 17:35:47 pm
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Thank You Mulderpm for those types of caravans to look out for. I may have seen a good Sprite Sport advertised recently. Must see if it is still available. 

Dankie almal. Ongelukig is my woordeskap the swak om a goeie gesprek te he, maar ek kan duidelik verstaan die mooi taal Afrikaans. Ek is 'n "soutie" (no laughter hey, it is 15 years since I had someone to speak to in Afrikaans and must be 30 years since I wrote Afrikaans please excuse errors!)

Seriously guys Thanks to you all. I will come back with my stories!

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01 Jul 2019 @ 17:53:42 pm
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Welcome here Marina.

You have already received some tips. If you look on the left hand side there is a <<TITLE>> and <<KEYWORD>> search where you can search for something like "small caravan" or in afrikaans and you will find a lot of reading matter. It might also help you to get an idea what to look for and what others are saying.

Not to worry about your Afrikaans. I am sure most if not all of us will understand. There is always the translate function if you are not sure what we mean if in Afrikaans.

Happy hunting for you.

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01 Jul 2019 @ 21:15:24 pm
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Just don.t buy before you contact us on this forum. I believe there  is some expert advise available. 

Next thing ... tell us how much do you want to spend. If its in Bloemfontein, i will have a look for you. 

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01 Jul 2019 @ 21:30:00 pm
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Match your car and caravan

Whattowcar.com

Krap gerus op hierdie website waar jy jou kar en karavaan kan match en sien hoe jou kar watter karavaan kan sleep, pros en cons.

https://towcar.info/GB/index.php#null

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02 Jul 2019 @ 07:29:06 am
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Well there you have it.  The Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM) of the caravan you should be looking for should not be more than about 1200kg taking the GCM and GVM of the Tiida on the NET in consideration.

That leaves you with just about what Paul listed you can look at.  You know who will be sleeping in the van and how many to cater for.  

The Hunting now starts and please take your time because the search for a caravan is just as "Lekker" as camping in one.

When you get into a Van ask yourself who's clothes goes where and what do you pack where.  You already have an idea what you take along on a tent trip.  In your mind pack all that in the caravan.  This will help with which model caravan would fit your needs best.

Then when you know what you want the hunt of a good condition caravan can begin.

Just note your Tiida can not take much weight in the car so most of your camp gear should have a spot in the Van.

Enjoy the hunting.

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02 Jul 2019 @ 09:35:47 am
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Ek het my Caravette 4 (750kg) met ons Tiida 1.6 hatchback gesleep, en dit was 'n baie lekker sleep kombinasie.

Glad nie geswaai of swaar gesleep nie, inteendeel, die 1.6 is meer as sterk genoeg gewees in sy 4de rat. Die suspensie het soms bietjie laag gehang agter, maar ek het nie grondpaaie gesleep nie. Die kar self was ook lekker stewig op die pad en ons het altyd veilig gevoel.

Ons het selfs 'n spoed oortreding foto gekry met hom - teen die opdraend! (Dit was in 'n 60km/h sone)

Kamp lekker!
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02 Jul 2019 @ 09:44:42 am
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Baie Dankie Wessel - jou kommentaar is baie 'verseekering' reassuring.

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02 Jul 2019 @ 09:46:56 am
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Sorry I thought I was replying to each person individually - you are all so great and I will be following your experienced advice closely. Thanks Again. Marina

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02 Jul 2019 @ 10:11:36 am
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Marina. Maak nie saak wat jy gaan sleep as n Karavaan stel ek voor dat n yellow blade if tando half verpligtend is. Dit is om te help met overall veiligheid as jy sleep veral as jy nog nuut in die sleep storie is en dit help baie dat die karavaan stabiel agter jou hardloop.

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03 Jul 2019 @ 08:12:10 am
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Marina. Maak nie saak wat jy gaan sleep as n Karavaan stel ek voor dat n yellow blade if tando half verpligtend is. Dit is om te help met overall veiligheid as jy sleep veral as jy nog nuut in die sleep storie is en dit help baie dat die karavaan stabiel agter jou hardloop.

I would also suggest a stabilizer. It just give you that extra bit of safety seeing that you are new to towing.

But first get that caravan and we can assist in the technical's about packing the caravan and safe towing.

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04 Jul 2019 @ 12:44:03 pm
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Hi Marina

Welcome to the forum and becoming an active member.

I think you misread the 4309kg. Being a UK website, the weights will either be in pounds or imperial ton.

If you convert the figure of 4309 lbs to kg, it comes to approximately 1954kg.

This rather sounds like GCM = gross combination mass which will be the GVM (gross vehicle mass) of the tow vehicle and the towed vehicle combined.

Best is to follow the suggestion to use the licensed mass as indicator since that will be checked and tested by the authorities. That is what you got off the license disc.

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04 Jul 2019 @ 17:44:12 pm
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Marina its much more comfortable towing a light caravan and much less strain. We towed a Sherpa which is like the Panther and Scotty witha a Tare of 440kg, and this was with our Hyundai 1.6 Accent. It was so comfortable to tow but very small inside with either a 3/4 bed or 2 singles. Look at Freds signature Skipper Oyster, that is around 400kg and you can get a 4 sleeper. We have bought the Skipper Model T which is a Tare of 360kg and i hardly feel it behind my Subaru Forester, but it has a queen size bed. Think it is the best thing since sliced toast but still to christen it camping. Another van to look at is the Sprite Scout.

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04 Jul 2019 @ 17:54:33 pm
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You don't say if you are camping with strong muscle accompanying but mabe an elderly father so the ability to unhitch and manoevre the nose of the caravan/tow hitch is a very important consideration if you are a woman on her own camping, in which case a light caravan is a very important consideration.

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06 Jul 2019 @ 10:01:42 am
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You don't say if you are camping with strong muscle accompanying but mabe an elderly father so the ability to unhitch and manoevre the nose of the caravan/tow hitch is a very important consideration if you are a woman on her own camping, in which case a light caravan is a very important consideration.

There is equipment available to overcome that problem.

Various caravan movers are available, albeit some more expensive than others, one can fit or use to move your caravan.

The most popular seems to be fitted movers that you either control with a switch attach by a cable or wireless remote. It works off the caravan battery and is strong enough to move the van into place.

Suggest you search for 'caravan movers' on the internet for more information on types and price.

Next to sliced bread, this is one of the wonders of the caravanning world.

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06 Jul 2019 @ 14:29:55 pm
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But if you do consider one of the ultra lights like the Sherpa Tiny of one of the Skippers, you can easily move it by hand on a level surface.  My wife and I regularly do this.  An incline is another matter though and there you would need some assistance.  In caravan parks this usually is not a problem.  Campers are herlpful especially if you are in the grey hair brigade.

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07 Jul 2019 @ 11:50:42 am
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Bought my 1972 combi camper and refurbished it.

Realy my dream camper. Light weight double bed mattress.  Lovely for two

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07 Jul 2019 @ 19:32:10 pm
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Welcome Julian

Trust you will enjoy the camper and this forum.

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08 Jul 2019 @ 10:51:37 am
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Bought my 1972 combi camper and refurbished it.

Realy my dream camper. Light weight double bed mattress.  Lovely for two

Hey Julian where the heck did you find this treasure.  Really looks good and clearly it was refurbished not long ago.

I really believe you will enjoy camping in this GEM.  By the way welcome to the forum. Please tell more about your camper.

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08 Jul 2019 @ 12:04:47 pm
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Julian, welcome to the forum. Looks great did you do the refurbishment yourself ?

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08 Jul 2019 @ 12:30:53 pm
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Bought my 1972 combi camper and refurbished it.

Realy my dream camper. Light weight double bed mattress.  Lovely for two

Dis vrek oulik. 

In elk geval. Baie welkom. 

 

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08 Jul 2019 @ 12:32:44 pm
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Hi, Please advise me what brands and types of caravan I would maybe tow with my car? I have read that the vehicle can tow 4309 Kg. What makes fit into this category for example? Advice much appreciated. Marina

Het jy al n wa gekry waarin jy belangstel.  Dan  ....   hoeveel wil jy spandeer maximum.    Dit gaan help met die soektog.

 

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08 Jul 2019 @ 20:24:12 pm
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Thanks guys

I did the mechanics and the electrical. The new ripstop tent was done by Swannies caravans in Cape town.  My wife made the blinds. We did all this in 2018 from June to December. This is really a fun project not done with it yet but we enjoy it at least once a month.

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08 Jul 2019 @ 21:20:33 pm
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Bought my 1972 combi camper and refurbished it.

Realy my dream camper. Light weight double bed mattress.  Lovely for two

I like this....very very nice!

WAARSKUWING:

Kampeer is aansteeklik en verslawend 😁
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