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Introducing Miles and Marina

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20 Mar 2016 @ 07:01:06 am
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everyone out there. My wife and I are two Ozzies travelling the world in our overland motor home. We love the outdoors and so far our favourite countries have been Mongolia, Siberia, Norway and Morocco. Now we are looking forward to a new big adventure in Africa. Shipping in to.... I think Port Elizabeth but they won't let us ship our personal belongings in the vehicle; hmmm any suggestions from our fellow overlanders?

We have a lot to learn about Southern Africa and we are looking forward to it very much. Advice always welcome
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20 Mar 2016 @ 07:25:19 am
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A warm welcome to South Africa and this forum. I believe you will have a very pleasant stay. Which other areas are you planning to visit other than the national parks? If you need more info regarding other camp sites etc...you are at the right website. All the best with your plans and keep us updated!😁👍
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20 Mar 2016 @ 08:13:15 am
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Hello Waarskuwing. Thanks for the welcome. We will spend from June to September in RSA, Nambia and Botswana so hope to see all the main NPs. Our concern is with regard to entry to most parks given that it will be the busy season. As it will be hard to book ahead for a camping spot because of our long itinerary. Will it be a problem to get a site to camp (we are fully self sufficient) if we are buying our permit and booking a camp site only a few days off entry to the NP? Or are we able to free camp in most NPs? I believe that some places like the Kalahari Game reserve only allow limited number of people in at any one time. If so how hard is it to get a spot to enter?
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20 Mar 2016 @ 08:53:03 am
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Welcome Miles and Marina.

I assume you are familiar with the SanParks website where you can check accommodaion availabilty and do bookings.

Unfortunately Sanparks does not allow "free camping". 

Fortunately there are campsites in close proximity to most entrance gates to the various parks so if you do not get a campsite in the park you will at least be able to take day drives. Not the ideal solution.

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20 Mar 2016 @ 09:03:51 am
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Forgot to add, I suggest when you have arrived in the country and you have a more planned itinerary keep checking the accommodation availabity and adjust your plans accordingly. If a campsite is available it can be occupied on same day.

 

 

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20 Mar 2016 @ 09:13:47 am
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Miles, you will not have to book everywhere ahead, before you even arrive in SA.  Maybe book the first park ahead, so you are assured of number one.  From there you check their website and plan the rest of your yourney around availability.  During the week most of these parks have stands available, it is only over weekends that you may experience a problem if you leave it to late to book.

Should you ship to Port Elizabeth  in the Eastern Cape it would be a good place to start.  The Addo Elephant Park is closeby, also Camdeboo, Mountain Zebra and Karoo.

Can your shipping agent not give you a solution about the personal belongings?  Maybe ship it separately in a container, hopefully on the same ship as your vehicle.

We welcome you to South Africa and hope you will have a most enjoyable stay.   Please keep us up to date with your travels and experiences.

Regards, Colin & Freda

 

 

 

 

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20 Mar 2016 @ 09:42:53 am
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Thank you all for your friendly advice - it is appreciated! Yes Hendrik, we were aware of the SANPARKS web site but need too and will make more use of it - thanks. Also good advice that it is practical to hope to get a late booking by keeping in touch with the web site so hopefully with some forward booking and the use of camps near the NPs we will get through. Colin and Freda thanks - for the booking tip. So weekends are the busy times even in central Africa. Yes we have started talks with shipping agent for separate container or part of. First reply is yes can and will cost around USD1000. Seems rich to have to take personal items like books, clothes, spare parts, tools, generator, air compressor out of the truck and yet be able to go on the same ship particularly when they are not security concerns. Ahh the fun of travelling

I suppose the same would apply in Botswana and Namibia as for RSA NPs? I wonder how we would go driving from Maun to Kasane which entails a number of days in the GRs of Morembi and Chobe just to get through? If its fully booked out does that mean no entry and no drive through? Or is there generally an opening within a few days for one vehicle and two people?
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20 Mar 2016 @ 10:47:24 am
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Hello Waarskuwing. Thanks for the welcome. We will spend from June to September in RSA, Nambia and Botswana so hope to see all the main NPs. Our concern is with regard to entry to most parks given that it will be the busy season. As it will be hard to book ahead for a camping spot because of our long itinerary. Will it be a problem to get a site to camp (we are fully self sufficient) if we are buying our permit and booking a camp site only a few days off entry to the NP? Or are we able to free camp in most NPs? I believe that some places like the Kalahari Game reserve only allow limited number of people in at any one time. If so how hard is it to get a spot to enter?

Miles and Marina. We had a very nice laugh about your reply. My name is Geert...the word "waarskuwing" at the end of my posting is part of my signature. Its a afrikaans word meaning: Warning! So the entire signature reads: WARNING: Camping is infectious and addictive. My avatar/forum name "see liefhebber" means someone that loves the sea. Thanks...nice to have a laugh😁👍. Enjoy planning your trip.
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20 Mar 2016 @ 11:37:24 am
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Miles and Marina. We had a very nice laugh about your reply. My name is Geert...the word "waarskuwing" at the end of my posting is part of my signature. Its a afrikaans word meaning: Warning! So the entire signature reads: WARNING: Camping is infectious and addictive. My avatar/forum name "see liefhebber" means someone that loves the sea. Thanks...nice to have a laugh😁👍. Enjoy planning your trip.
  laughing

Miles, we'll teach you some Afrikaans when you are in the country.  By the time you leave you'll even be a Springbok supporter!wink   I recommend the Lions as a replacement for the Redds.yell

 

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20 Mar 2016 @ 12:31:58 pm
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Haaa! So Gert, thats what Waarskuwing means. I wasn't sure if that was your name or what but I think that from now on I will at least think of you as Waarskuwing - I hope that's alright with you Gert. I would love to learn some Afrikaans but I don't know if I could actually go so far as to become a Springbok; nothing personal but having been an All Black follower (born in NZ) but now lived in Australia for 50 years I am an avid Wallaby. What a toss, the World Cup was All Blacks and the Wallabies; between a rock and a hard place. Go the Reds!
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20 Mar 2016 @ 15:49:15 pm
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Welcome and enjoy
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20 Mar 2016 @ 15:56:53 pm
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Danke Bostoe. Ek is seker Suid Afrika sal uitstekend wees
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20 Mar 2016 @ 16:04:28 pm
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Hallo Roadee,
Our South Africa has a lot to offer, but free camping is not possible as all the wide open spaces are either in private ownership or a National Park with strict rules.
For self sufficient overlanding, I think the Richtersveld N Park is the answer, there are no big game and predators, so you can choose your own camping spot. A visit to the Kokerboom kloof area would be remote and secluded.
From there cross the border into Namibia. Namibia has a lot to offer if you want to explore wilderness areas. We spent 6 weeks last year and wished we had 3 months.
Botswana has become very controlled, but still offers some of the best. Just get there, plenty of official camps all over, and get your permits for central Kalahari.
Some of the areas are not frequently visited,so be prepared.
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20 Mar 2016 @ 16:30:24 pm
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Thank you Herman. We think that we will head through North Cape to Fish Canyon so that will take us through Richtersveld NP and then perhaps across to Kgalagadi although it will depend on being able to get entry into the Game Reserve. I guess we will just have to contact the appropriate offices to hopefully get our permits. What does anyone know about single self drive through the Kgalagadi? I read that there is now a border crossing at Mata Mata but for pass port control one must enter at Twee Rivieren to be able to proceed on into Botswana. Any comments on this path to Botswana through the Kgalagadi Game Reserve?? (hoping to be able to exit the GR at Kaa??)
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20 Mar 2016 @ 17:44:29 pm
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Miles, most welcome on the forum, and evenly welcome to the land of Rugby, Sunshine, Braaivleis and Cheverlet.laughing

You already received some advise above, pitty Kruger National Park is a bit far out of your way, that is more or less our pride and joy.undecided

When here, drive safe and enjoy our beautiful country, please keep us updated with your travels, dont forget to upload some photos. 

Have a LEKKER time here. (Lekker is our expression  for a most enjoyable time).

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20 Mar 2016 @ 17:58:39 pm
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To use the boder post at Mata Mata, into Namibia, you need a 2 night stop over in the Kgalagadi transfrontier park. This boder post are for tourists only. The easiest way is to book a campsite at Twee rivieren. But if you intend to travel to the Botswana section of the park, you stamp your passport at Twee rivieren, and continue to the Central Kalahari.
Same for Richtersveld, also a tourist only border post, and then onto Namibia and Fish river canyon as mentioned.
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20 Mar 2016 @ 18:08:32 pm
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Thank you Herman. We think that we will head through North Cape to Fish Canyon so that will take us through Richtersveld NP and then perhaps across to Kgalagadi although it will depend on being able to get entry into the Game Reserve. I guess we will just have to contact the appropriate offices to hopefully get our permits. What does anyone know about single self drive through the Kgalagadi? I read that there is now a border crossing at Mata Mata but for pass port control one must enter at Twee Rivieren to be able to proceed on into Botswana. Any comments on this path to Botswana through the Kgalagadi Game Reserve?? (hoping to be able to exit the GR at Kaa??)

Mata Mata is a Namibia/SA border post. If you do not get accomodation it is an easy day drive south to Twee Revieren along the Aob River. 

At Twee Revieren is the SA/Botswana Customs Office where you can do the necessary paperwork. Unfortunately not familiar with the exit points from Kgalagadi into Botswana proper but there must be via Nossob camp. Else you might have to enter at the Middelputs border post which is close to Twee Revieren. 

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20 Mar 2016 @ 20:03:21 pm
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Welcome here on the forum.  Hope you get your belongings sorted before you arrive.

This is Africa, previous years not giving dates, you would not have had trouble with your belongings, and at that time I would have said this is South Africa. Thus this being Africa please be patient. You will get there, luckily you started early. Just hope it was early enough.

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21 Mar 2016 @ 01:58:32 am
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Thank you Herman for the border control advice at Twee Revieren. It seems like the way to go for entry exit RSA and Botswana via Kgalagadi GR. I just have to find out where to pick up a permit for Kgalagadi. If our planning brings us in from the north I wonder if we can obtain permits for there and the Central Kalahari at the likes of Maun?

Thank you Leon for your welcome! We are happy to receive advice and then work along with the situation. I know we will enjoy Africa

Thank you Johann! Yes we are already learning Afrikaans. Our first word was waarskuwing. I thought it was See liefhebber's name (laughing) Now we also know that we will be having a lekker of a time. We intend to spend two winters in Africa so will certainly be visiting Kruger. Kruger is to RSA like Yellowstone is to USA

Marina reminded me to ask about SIM cards and truck storage. Which are the SIMs that are obtainable for visitors which have the best coverage? Is there a SIM that will cover RSA, Namibia and Botswana (probably not?) in which case any suggestions for best SIMs for the other countries?

And any suggestions for secure commercial storage somewhere in Southern Africa Sept to March 2017?
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21 Mar 2016 @ 11:11:35 am
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Miles, my partner in the farm has a boat storage facility in Knysna with secure undercover storage. If you need assistance with the collecting in PE, he knows the way around as he imports boats etc through the PE harbour.
Knysna is on the Garden Route about 240km from PE.
The pre-paid cards don't work accross borders, I have roaming on my normal contract, which I use for emergencies, very expensive. In Namibia you can buy at the Post Office, in SA you need a utility bill to buy a card (proof of residence needed). Botswana I don't know.

If you want to contact re the storage, send email address, and I will connect you with him.
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21 Mar 2016 @ 13:37:23 pm
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Miles, you are in very good hands with Herman regarding advice and tips for your specific plans.

Should you perhaps look for storage in Port Elizabeth, I can refer you to Stor-age Self Store.  I know you find this type of storage in all major towns, it looks like a lot of single garages.  You provide your own lock and key for your store, take your goods there, lock it up and leave with your keys.  Our son stored furniture in one of those for three years.  

Their website is www.stor-age.co.za.   

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21 Mar 2016 @ 14:40:11 pm
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Danke Bostoe. Ek is seker Suid Afrika sal uitstekend wees
Hoe skryf ons hier afrikaans
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21 Mar 2016 @ 17:53:23 pm
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Welcome to the forum Miles and Marina,
Pack all your spares and everything in your camper and just take your clothing and toiletries as your personal items. I met an overlander from England, in Namibia, who had done the same and he had no problems when his overlanding vehicle was off loaded in Port Elizabeth. Should you get queried, appologise profusely for making the stupid mistake. Always be prepared to admit that you made a mistake and will not do it again. You cannot be crusified for making a mistake.
With your travels and visits to the game parks, book where you can when you get to the closest booking option from the park.
For your visits in any African country, always put your exit dates for at least two weeks after you expect to leave that particular country.
If you happen to be late then you are overstaying your welcome and is taken very seriously by the country concerned.
Be patient and do not show irritation at Border Posts. If they want to insinuate that you must pay extra (Bribe), make as though you do not understand and pretend that you have as much time as it will take to get through the Border Post.
Enjoy.
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22 Mar 2016 @ 07:14:33 am
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Miles welcome to the Forum.

You could try getting a "Wild Card", it is available on the Sanparks site. Take a look at the various clusters available to non SA residants. If you have one of these, you get a reduced rate at all the Sanparks listed on the cluster you have. The rate reduction is on your daily charge to the Reserve, thus you will only pay for accomodation. I am not sure if the non resident cluster includes Botswana and Namibia.

Hope you guys enjoy yor stay and trip.

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22 Mar 2016 @ 08:56:13 am
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Welkom op die forum en in Suid Afrika.

Onthou net: Dis nie n plek vir Sussies nie.
As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransies. (Parys - Frankryk)
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22 Mar 2016 @ 15:25:05 pm
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We have been on the road for the last 24 hours and come back to a lot of friendly greetings - thanks everyone!
Herman - that's very good of you to offer a referral to your partner with regard to PE. I would like that to just have a chat with someone to see how much I can do with port and customs clearance and for recommendation of an agent. Some ports wont allow you entry and others do. His storage in Knysna sounds good too but we will have to see which direction we go when we know our shipping dates etc. Your comments on the SIM cards make sense - Baie dankie!

Colin/Freda - thanks on the storage reference in PE. Usually they have a low entry. Our height is 3.4m but will check it out

Michelin Man - Ek hou van my slimfoon ...... hope that makes sense; not another,'waarskuwing'

Campervan Man - All good advice. My concern is that they don't let us load on the ship in Antwerp with our personal gear. I will try and if successful, like always be patient, big smile and always agree if there is a problem on arrival in PE. All good points thanks! Interesting that your English acquaintance was able to load with personal effects. Maybe there's hope yet

Backpacker - Someone else told me today about the Wild Card Good advice thanks!

Chuck - Dankie vir jou welkom!

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22 Mar 2016 @ 15:29:24 pm
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Miles, either you're sitting with a translation dictionary or you are fooling us.  You understand Afrikaans already.wink   Mooi man!

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22 Mar 2016 @ 15:47:37 pm
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Yaa Colin and Freda. I love my smart phone; don't tell anyone (wink)
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22 Mar 2016 @ 18:42:04 pm
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I would be carefull in trying to get away with loading gear on the truck if it does not apear on the shipping list. Customs can get full of shit and then the whole lot gets impounded, including the vehicle.
When crossing borders into our neigbouring countries, all my stuff is listed, with serial no and presented at customs for a stamp. One trip tought me this. From SA we travelled Namibia, then Botswanna and Zimbabwe and returned via Beit bridge back into SA. Well, I got stuck on the SA side, the Zimbabwe customs ignored to stamp my list.

You can contact Hugh McKenzie at Knysna Marine email; kmarine@mweb.co.za he might help with clearing agent.
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23 Mar 2016 @ 00:47:03 am
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Herman, thanks for your comments on the inventory list. Its good to be on the safe side and declare everything with a full list but I must say that all the borders we have crossed from Singapore to Europe we haven't had an inventory list and have had varying degrees of inspections from very thorough to only a cursory glance. Customs have only been interested in excess limits of alcohol etc and border control for drugs, weapons, contraband and banned food items. Incidentally I believe one can't take meat back into RSA from the north? Again thanks for Hugh McKenzie's contact. I will send him an email. Sounds like a good Scottish name. As mines Robertson we might have something in common

We've checked out the option of getting a Wild Card and seems that for internationals there is one option which is 3000Rand for RSA NPs. Not sure yet how to get it as the web says it can only be obtained on line and picked up in Jo'burg or posted. We'll look further as hopefully for internationals not going through JB I hope we could get it in PE or CT
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23 Mar 2016 @ 06:21:59 am
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Miles regarding the Wild Card, we normally renew our card at any/most national parks. I am not sure about a new one.

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23 Mar 2016 @ 07:03:44 am
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Miles, as far as I am aware, you can purchase a Wildcard at the entrance of most of our National Parks. My daughter and son-in-law with theirs friends, also Australian  citizens, got theirs at Kruger gate (Kruger Nat. Park)

You then do not get the proper card, but rather just an official receipt with the number and just show it at any entrance. This however, could have changed.

Hope you get sorted and have a wonderfull journey.

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23 Mar 2016 @ 10:12:49 am
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Thanks Johann and Backpacker again for the advice on the Wild Cards. The SANParks web site says that you order on line receive a receipt by email which only lasts for 45 days and the only place to pick up the card is from Pretoria if you don't have a mailing address. Lets see what happens
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01 Apr 2016 @ 20:08:36 pm
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Good day Mate.
May I recommend a MUST for Namibia.
Tracks4Africa. Self -Drive Guide. NAMIBIA.
THIS BOOK IS A MUST!
Everything you wish to know about travelling, border posts and red tape etc, where to camp, meat controls, repair and brake down retrieval .
Have just spent six weeks in Namibia and can highly recommend.
www.tracks4africa.co.za
There is a another specifically for Botswana as well.
If you have a Garmin, why not buy there tracks4AfricaGPS Maps or Smartphone Apps?
You will not be sorry, believe me.
Have a super trip.

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04 Apr 2016 @ 05:47:49 am
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Hi Ad Rem

Thanks for the advice on the tracks4africa. I had found it on the web and will shortly load it onto my android tablet. I like the detail and scale with all information on without web connection. It looks great! I haven't seen the books on Namibia and Botswana although I did have two books sent out from RSA on 4x4 Routes and 4x4 Tracks in Southern Africa which have been very helpful. Will also load our Garmin Nuvi up as well
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04 Apr 2016 @ 08:37:10 am
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Hi Roadee,
Pleased you picked up my suggestions.
I have put a few of our pictures on for your viewing.
Mainly Epupa Falls. A tranquil and beautiful spot.
Enjoy.
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04 Apr 2016 @ 14:09:54 pm
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Thanks Ad Rem. Great photos. Just makes us keen to get there!
Its not the destination but the journey
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06 Dec 2016 @ 21:18:50 pm
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Anybody know if Roadee made it to our beautiful Country?
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Anybody know if Roadee made it to our beautiful Country?

They were here ... already back
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06 Dec 2016 @ 22:02:05 pm
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Anybody know if Roadee made it to our beautiful Country?

Link to their other topic
https://www.caravanparks.com/35.Caravan-Camping-Forums-The-adventure-is-about-to-begin-.htm?forumaction=1&loadcategory=1027&loadpost=11021&highlight=begin#ForumsAnchor
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Anybody know if Roadee made it to our beautiful Country?

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07 Dec 2016 @ 21:09:28 pm
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Thank you.
So pleased they enjoyed their trip.
Regards,
Gavin.
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