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12 Jan 2015 @ 20:25:49 pm
Fabba
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hi all..I'm new here and need some answers.I know this topic might have been discussed previously but any advise will help.

Question : why do we need to tow a caravan in 4th gear ?,when my car does not even labor in 5th when towing
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12 Jan 2015 @ 20:40:21 pm
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Fabba, welkom op die forum.
Jy is reg die topic is al baie oor gepraat. Gaan lees by Title Search die topic in en hy gooi al die vorige drade vir jou uit. Anders sal die ouens dit dalk weer vir jou uitspel.
Sterkte.
As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransmannetjie. (Parys - Frankryk)
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12 Jan 2015 @ 20:42:44 pm
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Hi Fabba.

Thats just the reason. Its not about the engine, but more the gearbox. The powerfull engine puts a lot of strain on the overdrive gear when towing. Better to tow in a gear where the ratio is 1:1.

Do a search on the topics. This topic has been extensively discussed.

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12 Jan 2015 @ 20:52:49 pm
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Fabba welcome to the forum 

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12 Jan 2015 @ 21:49:34 pm
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Try to get the gear ratios for your vehicle, whether online or in the car's booklet. The ideal is to tow in the gear closest to a 1:1 ratio as it puts the least strain on your gearbox. It is almost like a direct coupling between the engine and axle. In the Fortuner's booklet they specifically advise you to tow in 4th gear with the manual version, while it in fact has 5 gears.

One may easily argue what the heck, it will be the next guy's problem. However you never know. The gearbox might break on your watch or circumstances may force you to keep the vehicle longer than anticipated. That is why I stick to the best diesel I can find and try to put the least strain on the gearbox. This is also why I detest metro police roadblocks while towing. Those guys are not going to replace my clutch kit when it gets worn. All those stop starts with a heavy caravan are not good at all.

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12 Jan 2015 @ 22:16:35 pm
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Hi Fabba, my Isuzu is 19 years old this year and I have about 220 000km on it with the original engine and gearbox. A lot of these kilos are towing a caravan. I tow very comfortably in 5th gear and have never had gearbox problems. I do all my own services according to official Isuzu workshop manuals. The engine and gearbox have never had leaks. I replaced the clutch and the prop shaft bearings at about 200 000 km. I get between 9 and 10km per liter towing at about 100kph. Best regards Pat
Slower and lower is better than higher and faster!
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12 Jan 2015 @ 23:05:39 pm
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Thats good hey Pat.I had my KB 300 "chipped" and the exhaust modified resulting to my question.In 5th if "feels" like the combo is "running away".I have to admit while towing recently in 4th i had a more stable ride.My speed 100/110kmph and also about 9/10L per 100km
Do what you must !!
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13 Jan 2015 @ 06:29:10 am
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Welcome Fabian. I also used to tow in 5th or 6th gear. What I did was while in that gear I excelerated a little by just pressing down on the pedal. If the tow combination did not pick up a little speed I would rather change one gear down.

This resulted in using those gears mostly on level roads and on slightlydown hills. Currently I have an Auto box and found that the vehicle itself regularly selects 6th gear while towing.

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13 Jan 2015 @ 07:57:01 am
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Leon, ek het ook 'n outo en sleep maar in 5de. Ek kyk wel dat die engine nie bokant 2000 rpm hardloop nie. My vorige sleepding se ratkas het opgepak, so glo ek, omdat ek heeltyd net in hoogste rat gesleep het.  

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13 Jan 2015 @ 08:34:10 am
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Fabba, the main thing about towing is to constantly look at your rev counter instead of the speedo. If your vehicle's highets torque is at say for instance at 2500 RPM's, try to keep it at highest torque RPM's without labouring your engine. If the engine is starting to labour, rather go to 4th gear.

I myself like to tow in 5th gear, but if my load is a bit heavy, I rather stay in 4th until I reach a downhill or a fair straight then I will select 5th again, but when facing an uphill, I prepare myself to shift down to 4th again to keep my constant speed of 100-110 km/h at highest torque.

As you mentioned that you have done some mod's to your exhaust and also chipped your vehicle, I done the same to my exhaust system, which gave me much more performance than other vehicles in my vehicle's class, but I rather play safe, because everything at the end of the day cost money and that money to spend on repairs, which could be avoided is another camping trip down the drainWink

Just my 2cents.

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13 Jan 2015 @ 09:42:19 am
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lovely stuff..DK
Do what you must !!
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13 Jan 2015 @ 09:52:50 am
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Hi Fabisn,

In addition to the above - judging by your avitar photo (3 litre towing a lightish low profile caravan), you should be able to tow that caravan without straining the gearbox on selected parts of the road. Just take note what the others what are towing with and what they are towing and you should realise you should have a comfortable tow in any gear whilst still taking "towing" into consideration.

I also selectively tow in 6th, but drop gears quite early on a hint of a gradient, just to play safe.

My concern is that the chipping adds power and you may not realise the additional strain on now imposed on the gearbox.

DR DRAKE GP

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13 Jan 2015 @ 09:58:27 am
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Fabba dis jou voertuig jy kan in enige rat trek,maar luister maar na die manne met die ondervindind, ek trek ook in vierde as ek n lang afdraande kry gaan ek 5de toe maar weer terug na 4deLaughing

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13 Jan 2015 @ 18:33:20 pm
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Ons sleep in n rat waar die engine nie labour nie en die spoed konstand bly sonder om sous dieper te trap.
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13 Jan 2015 @ 20:08:11 pm
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cool...
Do what you must !!
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13 Jan 2015 @ 20:46:45 pm
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Kon jy tussen al die teenstrydighede 'n ingeligte besluit neem Fabba?Wink

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14 Jan 2015 @ 06:50:21 am
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Hendrik M,Ja ek sleep nooit lang afstande nie.Meeste van die roetes het baie opdraendes en afdraendes.Ek dink ek sal berus met die besluit om in 4de rat te sleep vir die volgende redes :

1.Veiliger (op voertuig meganismes)
2.Gemakliker vir my (gemoedsrus)
3.Kan beter combo beheer

Baie dankie vir al jul insette ek leer baie hier.Ek het nooit voorheen die "finer things" geweet nie.

My kop het vir my ges mens moet n groot kragtige voeruig h on n karavaan te sleep (bottom line).
Do what you must !!
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14 Jan 2015 @ 07:04:28 am
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Als kom maar met ondervinding en mens probeer maar dinge toepas om die sleep en lewe vir jouself gemaklik te maak en om die wat jy het te bewaar sodat jy dit nog lank kan gebruik.

Hier in Gauteng kan ons weer so ietsie leer by jou met die opdraendes en afdraendes.

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14 Jan 2015 @ 07:11:30 am
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My vorige combo was 'n Isuzu 250 D en Caravette 4.Ek het maar gesukkel en het feitlik heelpad 3/4/5 gears gewissel.
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14 Jan 2015 @ 08:25:38 am
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Hi Fabba,
Ek het die 300 D-Teq wat ook ge-chip is en heelwat meer wringkrag ontwikkel. Ek sal wel in 5de sleep indien 'n baie gelyk pad en afdraende andersins bly ek in 4de en sleep met spoed van 100-110km/h. Moet nie onnodige wrywing op daar ratkas plaas nie.
Groete
Se dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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14 Jan 2015 @ 09:55:29 am
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Basically, I think Leon sums it up best. If you tap the accelerator and the vehicle surges, then fine. If not, drop a gear.

Remember down here in the Cape there are very few camping spots reached on level roads, there is always a mountain pass and steep hills to negotiate, so as long as the motor is not straining you should be OK. Those are good towing figures you have though...

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