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25 Aug 2020 @ 21:29:23 pm
Mikey63
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Hi guys 

My girlfriend (18) and I (20) are currently looking at buying our first caravan soon. 

we looking at the jurgens exclusive or classique, if you could drop some pros and cons of owning either one and what it's like to tow would be great, can't seem to find reviews that answer my question 

our other options are the sprite swing or sprite tourer SP/ sprite en suite. Again if you have any pros and cons to owning either one and what they like to tow would be great to hear. 
gravel road or on road caravan doesn't matter. We not gonna do remote camping. Due to personal reason, My girlfriend asked for a caravan with a bathroom/wc. 

we have been camping our entire lives. 

I have experience with the sprite scout, jurgens palma and conqueror companion and lots of towing experience.                                She doesn't remember the caravan she grew up with. 


Any help or alternative recommendations will be greatly appreciated, thank you 

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25 Aug 2020 @ 22:32:30 pm
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Hi Michael, firstly welcome to the forum.

Exclusive is a solid choice based on your requirements. Your Ranger seems to have the capacity. Exclusive is expensive, will need movers and a rearview camera is recommended.

If your list your questions there are many here who will be only too willing to offer answers.

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26 Aug 2020 @ 07:14:28 am
Leon
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Both of the Exclusive and Classique are great caravans.  For me the Classique is a better 2 person caravan and only has one axle that is better to maneuver the caravan around.  The Exclusive however has that little bit of extra space and the dinette that allow for two kids to sleep as the Dinette is a bit small for large persons to sleep on.

Other than that the two caravans provide the same comfort.  I would however suggest installing a mover on both of them as that will help allot with positioning the caravan at home or on a camp site.

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26 Aug 2020 @ 08:12:20 am
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Why such a big caravan for only two young people?  Your tow vehicle might have enough power but a large caravan nevertheless is cumbersome to handle.  The easier you make the towing, the easier is is to decide to go camping.  It is not a case of whether it is practical or not, but rather a psycological resistance you build up in time against  a difficult tow and reparking the van on returning home.  It might make the difference between deciding on a Thursday afternoon to go camping the weekend or only going out once or twice a year for a longer period.  I am not degrading large caravans, they are super for longer stays but not ideal for frequent short stay camping.  Do let us know what you decide and stay on this Forum, it makes you part of a large camping community. You probably are the youngest member here and we would welcome your young ideas. 

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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26 Aug 2020 @ 08:37:53 am
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Hi Michael,

You can also look at the Sprite Surfer which is a two-person van,light and it also have a bathroom.

If interested I have one with aircon,movers and outside scullery at the back with hot and cold water plus a lot of extras

You can contact me on zero eight two 419 four tripple one

Hein

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26 Aug 2020 @ 09:26:59 am
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Both caravans are good choices. But, as Fred states, they are BIG. Remember that the bigger the 'van the bigger the tent and awning.

BUT, it is nice to have the facilities (toilet shower)  when you intend to make this a retire-item.

I do not have experience of a double axle, but parking my 'van at my house I may find the turning effort may be tricky.  

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26 Aug 2020 @ 10:32:06 am
Chuck Norris
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Die raad wat Leon julle hier bo gegee is van die beste.

As julle dit kan bekostig gaan groot, koop klaar en geniet die wa wat jou alles bied.

Ons het n paar jare op die klok en het ook groot karavane, en ons Kamp vir n naweek en die raley slaan ons met gemaak op.

Julle is nog jonk en kan dit doen. 

Gaan groot of gaan huistoe.

Welkom hier en leer vra en jy sal weet.

 

 

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

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26 Aug 2020 @ 11:02:13 am
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Ja wel Jin- dis jou mening.  Baie van ons sal daarvan verskil. Die kans dat hedendaagse karavane vir lank gaan hou, is maar skraal so julle sal in elkgeval na 'n paar jaar 'n ander wa moet koop wanneer die wa begin uitmekaarval.

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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26 Aug 2020 @ 11:39:53 am
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For two people so young a big caravan seems overkill, you can both enjoy yourselves with less. The Sprite Surfer on offer sounds a good bet. Towing a big caravan at slow speed can be very frustrating, not to mention trying to move it into position at your camp site. But then like Fred, Im a bit biased as i believe in keeping camping small and simple with our Skippers. Just don't buy yourselves a caravan with wood rot problems, the repairs are expensive. You are almost certainly going to have to store the van at a storage place so it will be exposed to weather and vans dont last for ever so you will end up getting something else in the future.

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26 Aug 2020 @ 12:21:43 pm
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Daar is nie karavane vir jonk of oud nie, vir groot of klein mense nie.

Met geld of sonder geld nie. Net naweek kamp of lank Kamp nie.

Wat is die verskil met hulle wat jonk is om n wa the koop en een wat 70 is wat nou wil gaan kamp.

Wat ek sê en jy dink is irellevant.

 

 

As jy wil he jou drome moet waar word, moet jy eers wakker word.

Die jonge Fransies. (Parys - Frankryk)
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26 Aug 2020 @ 12:31:33 pm
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Kyk gerus na die Sprite Tourer SW lekke wa groot binnekant kombuis buite genoeg pak plek lekke grondpad wa sterkte met besluit

Haak daai wa kamp bly koning
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27 Aug 2020 @ 07:46:47 am
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We love our Surfer and mainly got it for the bathroom/toilet. Hell, even I shower in there sometimes! We've also had an air-con installed and gravel road upgrade.

As time goes on, we may get some movers installed but at the moment, in our 60's, we can quite easily push it around.

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27 Aug 2020 @ 09:05:50 am
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Daar is nie karavane vir jonk of oud nie, vir groot of klein mense nie.

Met geld of sonder geld nie. Net naweek kamp of lank Kamp nie.

Wat is die verskil met hulle wat jonk is om n wa the koop en een wat 70 is wat nou wil gaan kamp.

Wat ek sê en jy dink is irellevant.

 

 

Ons het met tente begin kamp en toe 'n venter waentjie en toe 'n penta en daarna die Classique en die Maia.  In my opsig sou ek dadelik klaar groot en gemaklik gekoop het as ek die geld gehad het.  Dis maar meestal die beskikbaarheid van fondse wat gemaak het dat ons die kom ons noem dit kamp leertjie stadig geklim  het.  Vandag sal ek slegs my Maia verkoop omdat ek weens my werk in die situasie geplaas word.

As jy die geldjie het koop die wa wat jy en ma wil he.  Ek het my wa met die tyd so ingerig dat ek met hom sal kamp tot op diepe ouderdom (As dit die liewe Vader se wil is).

Tans is net die oprig van die rally 'n uitdaging vir die ou dag.  Maar ek werk aan daai een.  Net tyd en fondse dan sal die volle automatiese awning sy plek he.

Dan stop ek, kry die wa op sy plek met die mover, level die wa en hoekstutte met boor af. Druk 'n knoppie vir die awning en maak koffie.

Ek dink die koffie maak gaan dan die langste vat.

Sonder Jesus is ek niks! ! ! !
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27 Aug 2020 @ 09:08:15 am
Leon
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Dan as jy daai wa mooi oppas en als so oorspronklik hou as moontlik sal jy hom die dag as dit moet verkoop vir meer as wat jy vir hom betaal het.

Daarvan kan ek getuig met al mdie karavane wat ek gehad het.

Gaan vir goud en koop wat jy wil he.  Want dan het jy eintlik klaar gekoop.

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27 Aug 2020 @ 09:36:07 am
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Oor jou laaste bydra hierbo Leon, Ons het ons Sprite Supersport vir R8,800.00  (agt duisend agt honderd rand) gekoop en vir R35 duisend verkoop.  Daar was darem so 'n dertig jaar tussen koop en verkoop, so dis interessante feite maar eintlik van geen betekenis.

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27 Aug 2020 @ 09:52:49 am
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Remember bigger caravan needs a higher level towing licences 

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27 Aug 2020 @ 11:35:32 am
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Think we in the old days automatically got the EB licence. Now days i believe you have to go for a test to get it. You qualify for a 750 kg towing weight if im not mistaken.

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28 Aug 2020 @ 00:11:23 am
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Ek het ook n 2.2 en weet nie of ek n Exclusive met hom sal wil sleep nie

WAARSKUWING:

Kampeer is aansteeklik en verslawend 😁
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28 Aug 2020 @ 09:05:57 am
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The previous feedback I gave was in terms of the two caravans you mentioned.

Ek het ook n 2.2 en weet nie of ek n Exclusive met hom sal wil sleep nie

Now with regards to the vehicle you have I would not advise towing the Exclusive with it.  I had the opportunity to tow my late camping friend's Classique with his 2,2 Ranger.  Although the 2,2 Ranger towed the Classique comfortably comparing the tow with my 3,2 and double axle Maia the power on the 2,2 Ranger is just that little on the short side to allow for a comfortable tow.

The 2,2 Ranger will tow the Exclusive make no mistake but the issues comes with overtaking and circumstances where you just need that extra power.

As Geert said maybe not the best idea.

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08 Sep 2020 @ 16:25:29 pm
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I had 2 Sprite Surfers specifically for the bath rooms, fantastic 2 person caravan and very easy to tow and set up.  We have upgraded to the Classique for the additional space and because of our plans to camp full time once on pension.  I added a Howling Moon 3.9 meter Leisure Awn a s permanent fixture with sides and front panel with door.  It takes us 15 minutes to put up.  Ideal for weekends.  I will be adding an outside kitchen as well.  I met a guy at Merry Pebbles that towed a Exclusive with his Land Rover Freelander 2 TDI.  He said no problems even on the steep mountain passes.  My previous experience with double axle caravan was a Wilk 570.  When a double axle is levelled correctly when hitched, it tows much easier than a single axle.  No heavy weight on the tow vehicle.  It is just more difficult to maneuver by hand, movers work well but you need 4, 1 for each wheel because of the weight.  My first choice would have been an Exclusive but unfortunately not enough space in the town house to park it.

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08 Sep 2020 @ 16:32:59 pm
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Fritz, Ek is nie van oortuiging dat jy so 'n kragtig as moontlike trekvoertuig moet hê nie.  Ek  dink een eerder soos Rolls Royce voldoende is genoeg.  Maar ek weet darem nie of 'n 2L Freelander geskik is vir 'n Exclusive nie.  Dit lyk my hy ontwikkel maar 71 Kw en 210 Nm.  Ek dink die ou het dalk bietjie oordryf.   Ek twyfel nie dat hy die wa sal sleep nie, maar wel dat hy dit sonder moeite sou kon doen.

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