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Vehicle service during lock down and beyond

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06 Mar 2021 @ 08:24:27 am
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I have a KIA Sorento 2.2 diesel auto last serviced in Sept 2019 .Due to lock down , being overseas I have not serviced the vehicle again .It has since last service done 4000 Km(service periods 20000) and stands on 95000 and is out of warranty and is 9 years old in June. It runs like a dream and I doubt if I will put on another 1000 km this year. I believe the 1 year  compulsary service is just a method to run out the warranty period and has very little to do ,if any of the state of the oil.

I would like to drive it till Sept 2022 and then service  ??

What have you done in this period and your advise,

 

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06 Mar 2021 @ 08:48:42 am
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PS: the service agent uses this very expensive synthetic oil at each service.

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06 Mar 2021 @ 09:01:56 am
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I think it is safe to delay the service as you want to do.  However, I believe the expensive synthetic oil you mention, is a must.  It does not apparently, break down as fast as natural oil and that is the reason why modern cars have such long oil change intervals.  The theory too is that there is acid build up in engine oil, but I am not convinced that that is dangerous to the engine, even if it is true.  I am not an expert, so take this as my opinion and the way I have been operating for more that fifty ears mostly servicing my own vehicles.  And most of them had high mileages and were in a good condition when I replaced them.    If you however feel obliged to change the oil annually, why don't you do it yourself, then you only have the price of the oil and filter to deal with.  This is a very easy job even for technically ignorant persons. For the rest of the necessary checks and services, you might then take it to a garage say once in two of three years.

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06 Mar 2021 @ 18:25:34 pm
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the main reason for a service is the Oil Change,
This is due to the mixture of diesel / petrol by pass whilst engine is running.
oil have a shelf life of 12 Months in a vehicle
This is due to the Anti foam, and the additives added to the oil. (Synthetic oil is a man-made lubricant that consists of artificially made chemical compounds. Synthetic oils are typically created from chemically modified materials such as petroleum components, but the base material is almost always distilled crude oil.)
I just do an oil change annually as my one car is also out of warranty (Oil Filter agents and oil at agents R105 + R595) the Mercedes oil filter is on the left front of engine and easy to remove oil plug also easy accessible.
the other one is still with in service plan and warranty
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07 Mar 2021 @ 16:38:58 pm
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The  least you can do is change the oil and filter at minimal cost . For your vehicle , Go for synthetic oil for piece of mind,as I agree with Swanie and Fred.  Even at a R1000 its worth it rather than paying for  a new engine or having to replace your vehicle?

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07 Mar 2021 @ 17:49:14 pm
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I have to agree that stretching a oil change to 3 years is not a good idea. No matter what quality of oil is used. Even full synthetic oil will be contaminated being a diesel engine. Any workshop can do it and then you are fine to 2022. The oil and filter should not cost more than about R500 at a non agent workshop. 

Sometimes the diesel oil reacts to the paper in a filter element to the point that it becomes loose pieces. This will be bad and not worth the risk of it going into by-pass. 

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12 Mar 2021 @ 12:39:01 pm
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So I contacted Kia The Glen for a quote R2800

8 x R150 for oil   R1200

Oil filter and washer a bout  R350

+ labour  the difference.

This was a verbal quote .Can you believe it?

Before I forget 5% discount for pensionersyell

I cant do it myself as I dont know how to remove the filter  and what do I do with the old oil?

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13 Mar 2021 @ 10:39:23 am
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The price of the oil certainly is excessive.  The most expensive synthetic oil runs at about R500 per five liter, the filter seems more or less OK, but the labour is way above reasonable.  It is probably a few minutes' work but they would charge you per hour probably, per half hour if they are honest.  You are paying R1250 for an hour booked.  My Kuga's services are not cheap, quite the opposite, and I paid about R1700 for a small service which would be similar to yours. (In excess of ten thousand rand for the last major service)  This is something that you can get done  ad a non franchised service station.

 

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14 Mar 2021 @ 07:11:44 am
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Thanks Fred ,I will take it up with the service manager(all services and purchase done at this outlet ,but people came and go ) and see what happens.

I still have one question to those that do there own service what do you do with the old oil? I assume you cant take it to the nearest garage nor the drain?

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14 Mar 2021 @ 15:45:26 pm
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Fred interesting what you pay. After putting on 2 tyres I stopped at a non franchise workshop. Not what I liked to hear. I have always provided my own oil and filters. This workshop would not do it that way. Shocked to hear if he had to provide the diesel and oil filters as well as oil it would be R3500. It should not take more than an hour and the oil and filters about R1500. Thus R2000 labour.

One looses track with cost if services are not done at different workshops. Up to now my labour for the filters and oil change has always worked out at 1 hour and less than R500. 

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14 Mar 2021 @ 18:23:46 pm
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Harry, I enquired at a franchise workshop a while ago and they told me used oil is collected from them by a firm recycling the oil.  I was told I could bring my oil to them and add it to theirs. I suppose they are paid for the used oil so there should not be any reason why they would not accept your free of charge.  I haven't done that yet.  So I suggest you contact either the franchise or a independent workshop and try coming to an arrangement with them. I the past out local coop had a tank for old oil which I used from time to time, but that is no longer the case.

PLEASE do not dump it in the sewer!

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15 Mar 2021 @ 06:56:36 am
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Hi Fred ,I think I am stuck with KIA the franchised dealer ,will see what happens today .A non franchised dealer is not a choice.

Draining  the all in a pan and then pouring it into a screw top device and transporting it in my SUV is for me ( am talking personally) is a accident waiting to happen resulting in a big oil mess.

I am aware NOT to us the drain ,I hope all people adhere to this?

 

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