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Free power! Why won't it work.

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26 May 2020 @ 08:35:04 am
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Any comments?.... https://youtu.be/jlBMp4OvbSM

 

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26 May 2020 @ 08:36:15 am
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Maybe I've got that link wrong so I'll double check.

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26 May 2020 @ 08:43:10 am
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Your strongest weapon is your mind!
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26 May 2020 @ 08:59:46 am
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Sjoe John....lyk na n impressive idee! Is ook stiller as n generator....net elektriese motor wat hardloop

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Kampeer is aansteeklik en verslawend 😁
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26 May 2020 @ 09:05:52 am
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Erens gaan iets moeg raak en dan is die free electricity ook sommer klaar. HeHe

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26 May 2020 @ 14:06:07 pm
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Daar is baie snert op YouTube.

Hierdie is een van baie sulke voorbeelde. 

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26 May 2020 @ 15:29:14 pm
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As ek die ding reg verstaan, dryf die motor 'n opwekker aan wat dan weer krag aan die motor verskaf sodat dit die opwekker kan draai?  Daar word selfs soveel krag opgewek dat ander appparaat aangedryf kan word. Regtig!  Soos die Engelse sê, trek die ander een.

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26 May 2020 @ 15:58:26 pm
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Hier by ons in die "ander"  gebiede is dit NOG makliker om gratis energie te kry .. koppel net 'n draad aan 'n paal en siedaar!!

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27 May 2020 @ 07:13:51 am
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Kampeer is aansteeklik en verslawend 😁
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27 May 2020 @ 07:39:53 am
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Ek sien daar is heelwat videos van dieselfde tipe ontwerp op YouTube. Sal hul elkeen nou so baie moeite doen om so n stelsel in mekaar te sit net om n fake video te maak? Sal interesant wees om te hoor by iemand wat kennis het of dit werklik so sal werk en indien nie, hoekom nie

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27 May 2020 @ 07:55:30 am
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Hierdie systeme maak nie voorsiening vir spikes nie.  Geen elektriese kompenente gaan hou op die lang duur nie.  Hoe word jou 50 htz beheer?   Geen Proteksie.  Eskom turbines spin langer as n dag voordat hulle hom energize sodat goed soos frekwensie en proteksie 100% korrek is.  As krag lewering regtig so maklik en goedkoop was het elke huishouding sy eie krag goedkoop gemaak sonder Eskom

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27 May 2020 @ 09:27:44 am
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It’s nonsense, not possible. The physics of the universe has a “law of conservation of energy” (basically meaning energy cannot be created or destroyed). Thus far, every experiment that has ever tested this law has found it to be true.

There are forms of energy that we haven’t yet been able to harness at home (such as nuclear), but this video is certainly not doing that!

It’s amazing how many people go to the trouble of making a fake video. If it was true/real, then (1) they would be selling the concept, not giving it away, and (2) they would be dead, because the oil suppliers of the world would have “eliminated” them...

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27 May 2020 @ 10:22:38 am
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Lees die kommentaar onder die videos, soos die een ou wat sê "12 million views !! That's a nice paycheck from Youtube."

Die mense word betaal per kyker, en sal enige snert wat kykers lok op sit net vir die inkomste. Hierdie tipe videos is oë verblindery, soos die ronde wiel met die balletjies wat ewigdurende beweging veronderstel. Daar is 'n klein motortjie binne weggesteek wat die ding maak draai.

 

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27 May 2020 @ 10:28:35 am
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Eishhhhhh Ja met baie Eish

Kom ons gaan kamp
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27 May 2020 @ 14:02:01 pm
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Okay, to play  the devil's advocate:-

If there was no extra load on the motor and it was only driving the flywheel, (correctly sized), when would the system stop turning, supposing the bearings & belts lasted indefinitely? 

I suppose that would depend on the friction drag in the bearings & belts. As the flywheel slows down, the generator puts out less current and therefore the motor will also be slower with less power to drive the flywheel. 

Of course I agree that if a thing looks too good to be true, it generally is.

Just an interesting clip.

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28 May 2020 @ 07:56:45 am
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The friction in the belts and bearings is one factor, as you’ve said. But an even bigger factor is the loss due to inefficiency of both the motor and generator. Energy is lost in each energy-conversion process. A top of the range motor might get a little above 90% efficiency. Now there’s a generator too, so immediately about 20% energy is thrown away (at least).

The system will only run as long as the EXTRA energy given to it by momentum of the flywheel lasts. Maybe a minute or two...

Such a system would not even start turning without someone spinning the flywheel.

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28 May 2020 @ 10:56:36 am
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Dit is onmoontlik om ň gadget te maak wat meer energie maak as wat hy gebruik, soos my Oupa gesê het, "Dis so goed jy probeer jouself aan jou broekrek optel, dit werk net totdat jy jou voete van die grond af oplig" 

Have you ever followed the world, or self, or even Satan, and seen the death that comes forth from that pursuit? The death of a relationship, the death of trust, the death of character, the death of love–and on and on it goes
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28 May 2020 @ 11:10:06 am
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I think we all agree the above video is a hoax and we were all taught that energy cannot be created from nothing.  But over the years many people have wondered why magnetism cannot be harnessed to produce power without any other input.  There are in fact several videos on internet that apparently shows that such a system can work.  Just type in free magnetic motor energy and see some of the videos.  I am a born sceptic  so I cannot accept this on face value, but these videos made me think.  Some things we were taught, even in physics at university, does not always add up for me.  For instance we were taught that a  aircraft moves forward because the propellers or turbo creates a vacuum in front that the surrounding area attempts to fill, including the aircraft.  But the backwards thrust is ignored.  It is only backwards thrust that propels a rocket so why is it ignored in an aircraft?   Another such matter is that the vortex created  by water running out of a bath, always turns in a specific direction in the northern hemisphere but in the opposite direction in the south.  I have experimented with this and found that this is not true.

Such matters make me doubt many things we were taught and took for granted.

 

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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28 May 2020 @ 13:49:34 pm
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Onthou, op you tube kan superman vlieg maar hy kon nie perd ry

Have you ever followed the world, or self, or even Satan, and seen the death that comes forth from that pursuit? The death of a relationship, the death of trust, the death of character, the death of love–and on and on it goes
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28 May 2020 @ 15:45:12 pm
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Good explanation Warren. I'll tell my friend to rather use his diesel motor that's been sitting in his garage and get a generator to charge his bank of inverter batteries.

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29 May 2020 @ 09:21:05 am
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Fred, you raise some interesting questions. It sounds like your physics teacher didn’t get to the basic facts of those situations, though.

The question of the bath vortex direction is virtually impossible to “display”, not because it’s not theoretically true (it is, as far as I know), but because there are millions of other things affecting it in one’s bath - there are external forces, movements of air, people, even the earth’s crust, endless momentum changes, that overwhelm the tiny force one is trying to see.

The aeroplane and rocket have exactly the same physics. In both cases, the craft produces a force backwards, and physics (Newton’s third law) says there will always be an equal and opposite force produced. And so there is - the opposite force propels the craft forwards. I’m not sure why you say the backwards force is “ignored”? It’s there, it exists, it’s just balanced out by the forward force. The backwards force is what the motor has to produce so that we get the forwards force we want.

However, it may be surprising after what I’ve just written, that I’m also a “skeptic” of some science! Well, in the sense that I know we have not explained everything in the universe(s), and that we have made mistakes (people have been burned at the stake for saying things that have turned out to be true). So we may yet change our “laws” in the future. Your mention of the free magnetic motor energy is interesting, and is something that I have also pondered at length. Magnetism seems somewhat “foreign”, and thus one wonders whether there is indeed some hidden “free” energy there. Personally, I don’t think so. Magnetism isn’t really foreign - one of the 4 forces in our universe is the electro-magnetic force, and so I think it conforms to the laws of physics. So I believe that those videos of the magnetic motors are also fake. I have a friend who was convinced that it was possible, and went to some lengths to build one, but has so far been unsuccessful. 

I hope I’m not coming across as a know-it-all! I’m really not, I just find physics fascinating, and am always trying to learn more. In fact, I have a physics question that I have thus far not been able to answer. It’s going quite off-topic, and I think this is already too long, so I won’t ask it now, but it’s been nagging away in my head for decades...

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29 May 2020 @ 09:39:24 am
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Thanks for your insights Warren.  And no, you do not come across as a know-all.  A discussions fizzes out or becomes stale if everybody agrees on a subject.

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