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10 May 2021 @ 15:00:42 pm
PAW
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Dear all

 

I recently bought a 2021 Ford Ecosport 1.0 Trend automatic.

I have now decided that I would like to get into caravanning.  I wish I had had this thought before car hunting!

Anyway, thats how it goes.  My question is has anyone towed with the above vehicle?  I only want a small caravan and am looking at something like the Gypsy Impi or similar.

The GVM of my car is 1760kg

the Tare is 1336

the caravans weight is around 750kg unloaded and 900kg loaded.  Any advice for me on what to look for and if my car could tow.

We are first time campers at the ripe age of 60!

looking forward to replies :)

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10 May 2021 @ 15:06:26 pm
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Al geloer na die Skipper?

WAARSKUWING:

Kampeer is aansteeklik en verslawend 😁
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10 May 2021 @ 15:16:22 pm
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Dear all

 

I recently bought a 2021 Ford Ecosport 1.0 Trend automatic.

I have now decided that I would like to get into caravanning.  I wish I had had this thought before car hunting!

Anyway, thats how it goes.  My question is has anyone towed with the above vehicle?  I only want a small caravan and am looking at something like the Gypsy Impi or similar.

The GVM of my car is 1760kg

the Tare is 1336

the caravans weight is around 750kg unloaded and 900kg loaded.  Any advice for me on what to look for and if my car could tow.

We are first time campers at the ripe age of 60!

looking forward to replies :)

As long as the GVM does not exceed the Tare of the vehicle then you should be ok. I guess you will get some more advice from the more experienced.

 

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10 May 2021 @ 15:32:17 pm
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Checking the weight only is insufficient, also check the power (Kw) and the torque (Nm). I do not have the specs of this engine, but make sure it is enough.

Someone once mentioned a British web site where these can be checked, I am sure someone will come forward with the details.

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10 May 2021 @ 16:04:12 pm
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thanks, it looks more "tent" than caravan, but I will check more indepth.

 

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10 May 2021 @ 16:09:31 pm
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Checking the weight only is insufficient, also check the power (Kw) and the torque (Nm). I do not have the specs of this engine, but make sure it is enough.

Someone once mentioned a British web site where these can be checked, I am sure someone will come forward with the details.

thanks Johan.  I have these details but its like trying to read Chinese.  I will have to ask ford to explain to me.

Power is 92@6000 and torque is170@1400-4500

 

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10 May 2021 @ 16:12:48 pm
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Dear all

 

I recently bought a 2021 Ford Ecosport 1.0 Trend automatic.

I have now decided that I would like to get into caravanning.  I wish I had had this thought before car hunting!

Anyway, thats how it goes.  My question is has anyone towed with the above vehicle?  I only want a small caravan and am looking at something like the Gypsy Impi or similar.

The GVM of my car is 1760kg

the Tare is 1336

the caravans weight is around 750kg unloaded and 900kg loaded.  Any advice for me on what to look for and if my car could tow.

We are first time campers at the ripe age of 60!

looking forward to replies :)

 

Welcome Trish...

 

Kom ons gaan kamp
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10 May 2021 @ 17:56:55 pm
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thanks Johan.  I have these details but its like trying to read Chinese.  I will have to ask ford to explain to me.

Power is 92@6000 and torque is170@1400-4500

 

I have the 1.5TDCi which have a bit more powe,r and recently towed my Venter to the Cape. The Venter was loaded a bit and on the mountain passes I had to use the gearbox. I really do not think your vehicle will be suitable for a Caravan.

Sê dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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10 May 2021 @ 18:25:40 pm
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I have the 1.5TDCi which have a bit more powe,r and recently towed my Venter to the Cape. The Venter was loaded a bit and on the mountain passes I had to use the gearbox. I really do not think your vehicle will be suitable for a Caravan.

I tend to agree...

two roads diverged in a wood and i took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
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10 May 2021 @ 18:29:24 pm
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Back in the day I towed a 1988 Sprite Sport (690kg empty) with an Alfa Romeo Giulietta 2.0l (96Kw & 176Nm) without any problems.

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10 May 2021 @ 18:46:33 pm
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Hi Paw.

 

Although the Ecosport has good power @92 kw..i personally will not tow a caravan with the Ecosport. Keep in mind it is only a small 3 cylinder with a  turbocharger.

Would be great if you can get a vehicle with more torque as well for towing.

 

Regards

 

If its worth doing, its worth doing well.
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10 May 2021 @ 19:48:05 pm
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Welkom hier op die forum.

Sterkte 

Al weer oppad iewers heen.
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10 May 2021 @ 20:20:53 pm
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Paw, you will tow a Skipper Model T at 360kg tare quite comfortably, we have towed ours with a Hyundai Accent which is less than the 92kw of your Ecosport. Don't worry about the van not being a 'proper' caravan, it does the job remarkably and comfortably well and is the best thing since sliced bread. It has a fridge and plenty packing space and a double bed and a proper tent.Ask any Skipper owner if they are happy.
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10 May 2021 @ 20:34:09 pm
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Paw, if the Skipper puts you off consider the Sherpa Tiny. 

My choice would still be a Skipper.

The Happy Campers.
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11 May 2021 @ 05:32:34 am
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11 May 2021 @ 05:37:01 am
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Years ago DR Drake was on the forum. He used to tow with small cars. If I am correct he used to tow with a VW Vivo. So I am sure it can be done.

 

At last !!!!
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11 May 2021 @ 07:16:07 am
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Dear all

 

I recently bought a 2021 Ford Ecosport 1.0 Trend automatic.

I have now decided that I would like to get into caravanning.  I wish I had had this thought before car hunting!

Anyway, thats how it goes.  My question is has anyone towed with the above vehicle?  I only want a small caravan and am looking at something like the Gypsy Impi or similar.

The GVM of my car is 1760kg

the Tare is 1336

the caravans weight is around 750kg unloaded and 900kg loaded.  Any advice for me on what to look for and if my car could tow.

We are first time campers at the ripe age of 60!

looking forward to replies :)

Your vehicle has a weight restriction on what it may tow.  Look at the id plate in either of the door rims.  There you will find the Gross Combined Mass (GCM) and the Gross vehicle Mass (GVM).  That is the largest and second largest weights indicated there.  Subtract the second largest from the largest and that will tell you what the capability is of the vehicle.

This capability is set by the manufacturer and you can not exceed that.  I have checked on the NET and found that the weights for the Trend AT are:

GCM = 2660kg

GVM = 1760

This means you can tow a max of 900kg

If you have an older model of this vehicle you should check as they only had a towing capacity of about 400kg

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11 May 2021 @ 07:18:19 am
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I would not tow a caravan with an Ecosport , have a look on the 4x4 Community forum (Ford finicky over petrol ) where a few owners have had catasrophic engine failures on their Ecosports. You can tow any caravan with any car but is it stress free towing . I had a Mercedes 260E 6 cylinder towing a Jurgens Slipstream which tows beautifully but when you hit the mountain passes or when you needed to overtake it became very stressfull. I then bought a Skipper T and never looked back , try hiring the van you are looking for and give it a try first before you buy . I sold the Slipstream after 2 trips due to stressfull towing conditions .

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11 May 2021 @ 09:33:05 am
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Your vehicle has a weight restriction on what it may tow.  Look at the id plate in either of the door rims.  There you will find the Gross Combined Mass (GCM) and the Gross vehicle Mass (GVM).  That is the largest and second largest weights indicated there.  Subtract the second largest from the largest and that will tell you what the capability is of the vehicle.

This capability is set by the manufacturer and you can not exceed that.  I have checked on the NET and found that the weights for the Trend AT are:

GCM = 2660kg

GVM = 1760

This means you can tow a max of 900kg

If you have an older model of this vehicle you should check as they only had a towing capacity of about 400kg

Thank you for the valuable information.  I have the newer model so I think 900kg is what I can tow.

I might have to sell........ and go bigger. 

 

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11 May 2021 @ 09:35:26 am
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I would not tow a caravan with an Ecosport , have a look on the 4x4 Community forum (Ford finicky over petrol ) where a few owners have had catasrophic engine failures on their Ecosports. You can tow any caravan with any car but is it stress free towing . I had a Mercedes 260E 6 cylinder towing a Jurgens Slipstream which tows beautifully but when you hit the mountain passes or when you needed to overtake it became very stressfull. I then bought a Skipper T and never looked back , try hiring the van you are looking for and give it a try first before you buy . I sold the Slipstream after 2 trips due to stressfull towing conditions .

great advice, thank you.

It is what I feared and I dont think my car will do the job we want it to.

 

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11 May 2021 @ 09:38:26 am
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Thank you forum for the advice and information.

I will look at the Skipper in more detail and perhaps rent a small caravan for a weekend to see towing power - which I personally dont think is sufficient.  I think my husband will have to invest in a new car for our adventures smile

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11 May 2021 @ 09:52:58 am
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Thank you forum for the advice and information.

I will look at the Skipper in more detail and perhaps rent a small caravan for a weekend to see towing power - which I personally dont think is sufficient.  I think my husband will have to invest in a new car for our adventures smile

Good luck Trish. 

Sê dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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11 May 2021 @ 11:14:30 am
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As long as you not pushing too hard, I guess you should be ok.

Make sure you check your RPM vs Speed.

Normally the auto box will sort everything out, but if the strain is too much, the box might start slipping, thus creating heat, which is not good.

See if you can rent or borrow said unit for a week-end and try it out?

Why not!!!

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11 May 2021 @ 16:18:38 pm
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Dear all

 

I recently bought a 2021 Ford Ecosport 1.0 Trend automatic.

I have now decided that I would like to get into caravanning.  I wish I had had this thought before car hunting!

Anyway, thats how it goes.  My question is has anyone towed with the above vehicle?  I only want a small caravan and am looking at something like the Gypsy Impi or similar.

The GVM of my car is 1760kg

the Tare is 1336

the caravans weight is around 750kg unloaded and 900kg loaded.  Any advice for me on what to look for and if my car could tow.

We are first time campers at the ripe age of 60!

looking forward to replies :)

Not sure what the specs are for the new models. A few years ago Ford gave a very low tow rating to it. As the car is new you don't want to exceed what Ford allows. It was 617kg on older models. 

This means the normal criteria cannot be applied.

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works. 

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11 May 2021 @ 20:03:23 pm
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Trish you loose money big time when you resell your car. Much better to buy a second hand small van like a Skipper that you will pick up for about R60 to R80000, Skipper will cost a lot more. You have a new car and know its history and you never know what you will pick up with a second hand car. A caravan is simple in comparison although you can pick up wood rot with a lot of vans if not careful.
Btw we had a Sherpa for 9 years and had many happy holidays, but we are much happier with the Skipper now, much more room and a superb tent in comparison.
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11 May 2021 @ 20:06:06 pm
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Koop n motorhome en sleep die Ecosport agter hom

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Kampeer is aansteeklik en verslawend 😁
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12 May 2021 @ 05:46:55 am
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Take a trip to Skipper factory. Test drive around and about. Order one. Collect it later.

Send me melktert after your first weekend away.

Stop worrying 🤣

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12 May 2021 @ 08:38:52 am
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Trish, We also are as enthusiastic about our Skipper as Paul.  I have not yet spoken or read about  a Skipper camper who feel differently.  We have the Oyster which is a bit bigger and therefore heavier than the advertised Model T and also the one Paul uses. Loaded, even my Skipper is about the weight of a loaded trailer at 650Kg and the Model T is even lower in weight. As the Skipper folds down low, probably to the same height as the tow vehicle, the wind resistance is much lower than a more conventional caravan like a Sherpa Tiny which makes the effort of the tow car much easier.  

Whether the EcoSport is able to tow anything, I would not like to express an opinion, but if you do find it is safely possible, I would venture the opinion that the Skipper is the way to go.  I think the question should not be so much whether you will be happy with a tent-trailer but whether you are campers at hart.  If you have not yet experienced camping, perhaps you should first get a small basic tent with the minimum of equipment and try out this life style before you take more expensive decisions. Camping is camping and doing this in a tent, tent-trailer of full sized caravan is just a question of the level of comfort.

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12 May 2021 @ 09:22:38 am
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12 May 2021 @ 09:35:35 am
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BUY THAT SKIPPER !!!!

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12 May 2021 @ 09:40:02 am
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Trish, We also are as enthusiastic about our Skipper as Paul.  I have not yet spoken or read about  a Skipper camper who feel differently.  We have the Oyster which is a bit bigger and therefore heavier than the advertised Model T and also the one Paul uses. Loaded, even my Skipper is about the weight of a loaded trailer at 650Kg and the Model T is even lower in weight. As the Skipper folds down low, probably to the same height as the tow vehicle, the wind resistance is much lower than a more conventional caravan like a Sherpa Tiny which makes the effort of the tow car much easier.  

Whether the EcoSport is able to tow anything, I would not like to express an opinion, but if you do find it is safely possible, I would venture the opinion that the Skipper is the way to go.  I think the question should not be so much whether you will be happy with a tent-trailer but whether you are campers at hart.  If you have not yet experienced camping, perhaps you should first get a small basic tent with the minimum of equipment and try out this life style before you take more expensive decisions. Camping is camping and doing this in a tent, tent-trailer of full sized caravan is just a question of the level of comfort.

  Thank you for the advice.  I definitely am a camper at heart.... have all the equipment and have camped regularly in the past, but as I enter my latter years in life - I want a little more comfort.

It looks like I have to have a good look at the skipper.  It will suit us being only two people but just thought a caravan is a step up.

smile

 

 

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12 May 2021 @ 09:41:20 am
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Koop n motorhome en sleep die Ecosport agter hom

that was my initial thought but at the price of motorhomes....... hmmmmmwink

 

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12 May 2021 @ 09:45:40 am
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Wow, that model T looks nice.

  thanks I just had a look.  I will see if I can go see it over the weekend.

 

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12 May 2021 @ 09:48:08 am
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Take a trip to Skipper factory. Test drive around and about. Order one. Collect it later.

Send me melktert after your first weekend away.

Stop worrying 🤣

  hahaha.... that a cheap thank you.  But I live in Gauteng and the factory is in Durban.......

 

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12 May 2021 @ 10:14:04 am
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The factory gives you two days' free camping i n a very nice nearby resort, Mc Nicolls, to allow you to get used to the unit and to correct any very unlikely faults that might appear. And towing the van back would give you some good experience.  We travelled from Pieterburg to collect ours.

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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12 May 2021 @ 10:49:49 am
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The factory gives you two days' free camping i n a very nice nearby resort, Mc Nicolls, to allow you to get used to the unit and to correct any very unlikely faults that might appear. And towing the van back would give you some good experience.  We travelled from Pieterburg to collect ours.

Fred, raak dit nie bietjie koud in daai wa met die tent. Ek hou nogal van die kompakte wa.

Sê dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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12 May 2021 @ 11:42:47 am
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Mine was never cold . Duvets and blankets on the mattress is all you need.

McNicholls is a great resort , spent many many Decembers there.

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12 May 2021 @ 11:54:07 am
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Mine was never cold . Duvets and blankets on the mattress is all you need.

McNicholls is a great resort , spent many many Decembers there.

Tx Duncan.

Sê dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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12 May 2021 @ 14:29:43 pm
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Neewat Hennie, 'n blaasverwarmer on/of 'n elektriese kombers maak die baie klein binneruimte heerlik warm.  Ons het 'n baie klein blaasverwarmertjie van net 500W wat ons verkies bo die gewone grotes.  Die grotes maak die wa vinnig warm, soms te warm selfs op net een element, dan skakel dit af en dit word weer koud voor dit weer aanskakel.  Die kleintjie het 'n elektroniese beheer wat meer akkuraat is as die ander maar as dit redelik koud word, skakel die dingetjie nie meer af nie   sodat ons nie die ongerieflike dalings ervaar nie. Omdat sy kapasiteit klein is, maak hy ook nie die wa ongerieflik warm nie.  Ons het al onder andere by Golden Gate gekamp in die middel van die winter waar die temperatuur onder vriespunt gedaal het.  Ek vermoed die Oyster koel dalk minder af as die Model T omdat die Oyster 'n soliede en waarskynlik beter geësoleerde dak het, maar beide modelle het maar seilmure, so miskien is daar  nie juis 'n groot verskil nie.

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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13 May 2021 @ 06:23:53 am
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Neewat Hennie, 'n blaasverwarmer on/of 'n elektriese kombers maak die baie klein binneruimte heerlik warm.  Ons het 'n baie klein blaasverwarmertjie van net 500W wat ons verkies bo die gewone grotes.  Die grotes maak die wa vinnig warm, soms te warm selfs op net een element, dan skakel dit af en dit word weer koud voor dit weer aanskakel.  Die kleintjie het 'n elektroniese beheer wat meer akkuraat is as die ander maar as dit redelik koud word, skakel die dingetjie nie meer af nie   sodat ons nie die ongerieflike dalings ervaar nie. Omdat sy kapasiteit klein is, maak hy ook nie die wa ongerieflik warm nie.  Ons het al onder andere by Golden Gate gekamp in die middel van die winter waar die temperatuur onder vriespunt gedaal het.  Ek vermoed die Oyster koel dalk minder af as die Model T omdat die Oyster 'n soliede en waarskynlik beter geësoleerde dak het, maar beide modelle het maar seilmure, so miskien is daar  nie juis 'n groot verskil nie.

Baie dankie Fred. My vrou kry maar redelik gou koud.

Sê dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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13 May 2021 @ 13:32:28 pm
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PAW,  "Camping with skipper owners" on f/book you wil find Echo sport owners towing the Skipper vans. Ask them for info regarding  you question. 

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14 May 2021 @ 09:51:49 am
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Paw, my take on this issue is simple. I will never ever again try to tow a caravan type vehicle behind a lightweight car. Towing it around the block in your neighbourhood whilst test driving it is one thing, but taking it on the open road is another. Engine ability does not make for towing peace of mind - tow car weight does.

In the mid eighties I once, with the emphasis on once, tried to tow our Fleetline Four with a 1500 cc Honda Ballade. All went well until the first heavy duty truck came from the front. That light weight towcar combination was pushed off the road by the gust of wind created by the truck. It happened with every truck coming from the front. The exercise became a nightmare, causing me to proceed at 60 kph in order to combat the wind gusts. When we got home I bought a Granada, and then realised how impotant tow vehicle weight is in cross-wind conditions.

If you want to leave your towing peace of mind at home, tow with a light weight vehicle.  I know oncoming trucks does not bother on freeways, but in the back of your mind you will always carry the fear of that cross-wind affect in your light weight once you have encountered it.

Why do under powered bakkies make acceptable towing vehicles? They have the weight that brings confidence.

 

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14 May 2021 @ 11:31:00 am
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Paw, my take on this issue is simple. I will never ever again try to tow a caravan type vehicle behind a lightweight car. Towing it around the block in your neighbourhood whilst test driving it is one thing, but taking it on the open road is another. Engine ability does not make for towing peace of mind - tow car weight does.

In the mid eighties I once, with the emphasis on once, tried to tow our Fleetline Four with a 1500 cc Honda Ballade. All went well until the first heavy duty truck came from the front. That light weight towcar combination was pushed off the road by the gust of wind created by the truck. It happened with every truck coming from the front. The exercise became a nightmare, causing me to proceed at 60 kph in order to combat the wind gusts. When we got home I bought a Granada, and then realised how impotant tow vehicle weight is in cross-wind conditions.

If you want to leave your towing peace of mind at home, tow with a light weight vehicle.  I know oncoming trucks does not bother on freeways, but in the back of your mind you will always carry the fear of that cross-wind affect in your light weight once you have encountered it.

Why do under powered bakkies make acceptable towing vehicles? They have the weight that brings confidence.

 

  Thank you for your advice.

My best option at this point is the Skipper, but when I looked at the weights of the different models I found that they are quite heavy but I will still investigate.

My second option is to stick with my tent and what I have got now for camping.  Maybe just adding stretchers will help with not having to get on the floor to sleep smile

I still want to go and have a look at the Gypsey Impi as this weights 750kg and loaded 900kg.  

Another option I saw was the Sherpa - but wow the prices yell

I still am unsure exactly what the towable weight is with my car with all the various options like curbweight, GVM, Tare, payload, etc. I must say I have learnt a lot in this short time about caravans, towing, etc.  I found some very interesting articles from 4x4 forum and Car magazine regarding towing which were most helpful.

Thank you to all the members that have contributed so far it has been worthwhile for me.

 

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14 May 2021 @ 16:19:03 pm
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  Thank you for your advice.

My best option at this point is the Skipper, but when I looked at the weights of the different models I found that they are quite heavy but I will still investigate.

My second option is to stick with my tent and what I have got now for camping.  Maybe just adding stretchers will help with not having to get on the floor to sleep smile

I still want to go and have a look at the Gypsey Impi as this weights 750kg and loaded 900kg.  

Another option I saw was the Sherpa - but wow the prices yell

I still am unsure exactly what the towable weight is with my car with all the various options like curbweight, GVM, Tare, payload, etc. I must say I have learnt a lot in this short time about caravans, towing, etc.  I found some very interesting articles from 4x4 forum and Car magazine regarding towing which were most helpful.

Thank you to all the members that have contributed so far it has been worthwhile for me.

 

It would seem the specs I posted 3 day ago is still valid. Ford indicates the max towing as 636kg or 1400lb for the 1L 3 cyl.. The 2L diesel is 2000lb.

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14 May 2021 @ 16:37:49 pm
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Danie, die Ecosport het net een model met 'n dieselmasjien van 1.5 liter as ek reg onthou.   Dis waarskynlik dié model waarna jy verwys. Met die sleepvermoë vir die 1 liter wat jy noem, sal hy dus wel die Skipper model T kan sleep wat as ek reg onthou, 'n gelaaide gewig van onder 600 Kg het,.  Ek vermoed die 1.5 liter diesel sal dalk meer kan sleep, maar ek raai net- bietjie lui om die specs te gaan soek.  

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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14 May 2021 @ 17:25:55 pm
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Danie, die Ecosport het net een model met 'n dieselmasjien van 1.5 liter as ek reg onthou.   Dis waarskynlik dié model waarna jy verwys. Met die sleepvermoë vir die 1 liter wat jy noem, sal hy dus wel die Skipper model T kan sleep wat as ek reg onthou, 'n gelaaide gewig van onder 600 Kg het,.  Ek vermoed die 1.5 liter diesel sal dalk meer kan sleep, maar ek raai net- bietjie lui om die specs te gaan soek.  

Fred nee die Ford handleiding wys net die 1L en 2L. Ek weet daar is egter in SA die 1.5L. maar hierdie handleiding wys dit nie. Dan is daar die Titanium maar weet nie watter enjin dit gebruik nie. Die 2L is 'n AWD soos hierdie prentjie.

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15 May 2021 @ 13:51:50 pm
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 Danie, ek sien jy is reg, maar ek kry nêrens op internet 'n 2L diesel nie.  Ek het nie te hard probeer nie.  Ford SA gee nie so 'n weergawe aan nie en Engeland ook nie.  Die feit dat die massas in pond aangegee word sê dit is nie ons specs  nie. Weet jy dalk in watter land dit is en howveel Kw die 2L diesel ontwikkel?

 

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17 May 2021 @ 06:36:05 am
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Fred nee die Ford handleiding wys net die 1L en 2L. Ek weet daar is egter in SA die 1.5L. maar hierdie handleiding wys dit nie. Dan is daar die Titanium maar weet nie watter enjin dit gebruik nie. Die 2L is 'n AWD soos hierdie prentjie.

Danie, die 2L is NIE in SA beskikbaar nie. Slegs die 1.5TDCi. Ek was saterdag weer by Ford toe my TDCi gediens is. Ek stuur vir jou die brosjure van die EcoSport's hier beskikbaar.

Sê dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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17 May 2021 @ 10:57:34 am
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Hi All

Just a last word on my Ecosport and towing ability.....

I asked the question on the Skipper group and got this reply:

"Excellent towing combination.  Had a three week trip to the Kruger National Park, Blyde River and back to Durban via Drakensville.  Overall average fuel consumption 6.2l/100km.  Towed an Oyster LTX with brakes."

I can look at the Skipper with a bit more confidence as the tare weight is 450kg and GVM of 750kg (braked).  In line with comments further up from Danie on towing weights.

thanks all for the contribtions.  If anyone know of a second hand skipper Oyster - I'm all ears!

 

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17 May 2021 @ 11:03:02 am
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https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php/342938-Ford-very-finnicky-over-petrol-2nd-engine-replacement-imminent

 

Found this on another forum 

two roads diverged in a wood and i took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference.
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