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16 Sep 2016 @ 15:29:13 pm
Fransie
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Hi All

For those who have followed - These caravans are my favorite. I have bought one in reasonable condition and I have embarked on my journey to get this van ship-shape and to camp long and to camp often.

I have now completed rework on the caravan tent - And I can recommend AllOutdoors for this work. They are extremely good at what they do - bearing in mind that quality does not come cheap. It is a worthwhile investment for me. Thank you to those who referred me to go to them.

Next project - Help needed.

I am looking for someone knowledgeable on the roof lifting system. I would like to do a complete overhaul/rebuild or if brave enough new design (pneumatics maybe?). If you know of someone, please give me a shout. This.is.not.an.easy.project.


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16 Sep 2016 @ 18:29:48 pm
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Hi Fransie. Looks great. Had my rally and other mods to my tent done by Romeo, excellent work.
What was the cost to replace the tent to your van? My son has a similar van and is also looking at replacing the tent. Camp safe.
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16 Sep 2016 @ 18:38:31 pm
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Fransie gaan groot geniet die wa en lekke kamp
Haak daai wa kamp bly koning
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16 Sep 2016 @ 18:39:09 pm
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Hi Koos

Romeo charged R10k for the caravan tent. The side tent was another story... As I said, this quality does not come cheap. These guys do not budge on the quality of materials used. This is a custom tent - and I made many requests. Romeo has an excellent design for my van's tent which helps prevent drafts and bugs from getting in at night.

I just have to sort out that lifter system though. Then I'm good to go!
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16 Sep 2016 @ 18:42:34 pm
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Lyk baie goed!
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16 Sep 2016 @ 19:57:36 pm
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nice!
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18 Sep 2016 @ 21:11:59 pm
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Looks great...
On The Road Again
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19 Sep 2016 @ 08:33:03 am
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Mooi gedoen.
Al weer oppad iewers heen.
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19 Sep 2016 @ 08:41:48 am
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Hallo Francois 

Looks good. 

Was the 10K only for the caravan surround, or does this include the bed extensions?

It looks like it is now 3 pieces attached to each other with Velcro strips. ( Caravan surround and the 2 bed extensions ) 

I would have loved to see the finished product in real live. 

Why do you want to change the lifting system, does yours give problems? Mine was done when I bought it about 10 years ago and has been working hassle-free since. I have thought about inserting 4 supports next to “lifters” after the roof was raised and then lower the roof slightly to rest on these supports to take some strain of the cables keeping everything up, but never did. Once saw a slipstream with broomsticks keeping the roof up - lifting system must have broken.

I do not see the cable between body and roof that will prevent you from lifting the roof too high and either cause the telescopic lifters to come apart / over extend ( I do not know if it is even possible ) or tear the canvas or strip whatever is attaching the canvas to the body / roof? 

Good luck with the lifting system and thanks for sharing the “before and after” pics. 

Pieter

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26 Sep 2016 @ 09:44:07 am
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Hi Pieter

Apologies for the late response.

The R10k was for the surround including the overhangs by the beds. They used a high quality rip-stop and furthermore a very, very clever and attractive design for securing the bottom of the canvass to the van.

The side tent was initially quoted at 25k, so I just had some basic work done and spent a Further 7k on that.

As for the support when up - I have never used any additional support. If anything, I would probably use broomsticks.

The lifting system does work, however the rear half is lower than the front when raised (you can see the tent at the rear hangs slightly more loose than the front). I suspect this is due to bent or worn cable pulleys etc. I would like to have this all looked at and if possible, replace the 3mm cable with a 6mm cable for added strength. Not major work - but something you would have to know in order to do right. I have yet to find someone to do this work for me.

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26 Sep 2016 @ 09:50:34 am
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Pieter - I missed something - The overhangs by the beds are attached to the main surround. The velcro you see there repleces the zipper used to attach the side tent. I had the side tent's sides done as well in order to match the caravan's new surround.
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29 Sep 2016 @ 14:32:47 pm
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Hi, I would liked to have replaced my tent as you have but sold my van before I could. I did a few mods and changed the inside around so I could make an outside kitchen which worked well . I don`t think you will be able to replace the wire with 6mm as I think it will be too thick . If I remember correctly to get the roof level you have to adjust the side that is higher a bit lower by adjusting on the adjuster nuts ( in last picture) and when it becomes level with the other side when you wind it up they will both be level. Hope this helps.

Andrew

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29 Sep 2016 @ 15:33:54 pm
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Thank you Andrew. Your pics are very informative - I will be removing quiet a bit of paneling to get at the system - maybe something I should not attempt with my very limited skill set and dangerous history of hand tool injuries..

Something must be done, I fear my system is not as reliable as it should be. Has your roof system ever failed?

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29 Sep 2016 @ 16:55:56 pm
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Its perfect the way it is
Tinyiko J Maluleke
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29 Sep 2016 @ 18:01:42 pm
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Hi, no my system never failed, I lifted the roof to the max with the winch and propped each corner with wood and the replaced each cable one at a time as they are now slack and then tighten them with the tensioning nuts . I bought the cable at builders warehouse.I cannot remember if I drilled a hole in each strut and put a split pin in to keep the corners up to take the tension off cabling when camping. It really is not a difficult job as long as you remove the panels to get access.

 

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30 Sep 2016 @ 07:02:15 am
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Francois 

That is a lot of money to spend on an old van, but like you said quality does not come cheap.

If the body is still in good condition your van could last another 20 odd years and you would not buy something similar for the same money.

I trust you would also post some photos on how the canvas was secured to the van.

 

Pieter

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30 Sep 2016 @ 07:14:34 am
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Andrew 

That looks great.

I have seen a view modifications to these vans and was wondering if the extra weight (especially with a nosecone) does not cause overheating on the brakes.The shock absorber on the run-in brakes is light duty and it does not take a lot of force to activate the brakes. – I have replaced mine ( shock ) since our last trip which might make it better now.

My other concern was also the movement on the A-frame. It appears to be flexing when traveling on uneven roads even though I definitely did not overload on the tow ball weight. 

Thanks for sharing the pictures and info on the cable and pulley system for the roof. 

Pieter

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30 Sep 2016 @ 08:17:20 am
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Thanks Pieter - A lot of money indeed!

Keep in mind this is not only an old van - there is nothing else like it! If Jurgens sold a new one, I'd buy it! What else could you buy that's light enough for a toyota corolla to tow and sleeps 6 people...

I'm not concerned about this spend - I intend to use this van for a very long time, so I'll gladly fix what needs fixing.
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30 Sep 2016 @ 18:10:07 pm
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Pity they are not made anymore. What is die empty weight?
Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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30 Sep 2016 @ 21:48:13 pm
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Tarra = 630kg with GVM = 850kg leaves you with 220kg to load. No idea of the weight of tens and poles?
Add the groundsheet and spare and maybe an extra fridge, washing up rack for the dishes etc. and you will quickly overload I think.
Better to load whatever you can in the tow vehicle as many have said before.
Light to tow and easy to manoeuvre @ campsite if necessary.
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03 Nov 2016 @ 16:52:40 pm
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Hi Fransie

Your slipstream looks good. I bought Danie Landman's slipstream two months or so ago and have been busy with a complete rebuild. I just had my tent fixed and replaced all the green with navy blue. Fitted the tent this week. I will start a new topic with fotos etc. of the build.

The cable system is actually quite simple, although you would think it is complex. I serviced the whole system during the rebuild and adjusted the heights after I fitted the tent. All you need to adjust it is a 10m spanner and a screwdriver. I can send you more info if you need. The system seems quite sturdy and I would not worry about broomsticks etc. Maybe just keep one around for one day. They are 20 years old and still working fine.

Andrew I have been drooling over your slipstream. Job well done.
Best regards
Hanry
Ps: I include a sneak peak
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04 Nov 2016 @ 08:04:17 am
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Hallo Swerwer
Welcome to the forum.
I do like your colour scheme and am looking forward to your topic of your rebuild.
I am particularly interested in the removing and refitting of the canvass as Fransie generously donated his old canvass to me to be cannibalised for repairs on my tent. I must just find the time ( and courage ) to remove the tent, apparently it is quite a job and a half.

Pieter
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04 Nov 2016 @ 08:29:55 am
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It is a pity Jurgens stopped manufacturing these units.  They seem superior to units that fall more or less in this category- tent trailers- on the market today.  You did a splendid job on yours Hanre

What is the weights on your unit - I mean the original weights?

 

Het is beter rijk te leven dan rijk te sterven
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04 Nov 2016 @ 08:32:17 am
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Hi Pieter
Thank you for the welcome and compliments.
Removing the tent is not all that difficult. I did it by myself the second time, but better to have someone helping especially when putting it back on. It takes about an 30 min to an hour so it's not all that complex. Remove the screws in the corners on the ceiling. Then remove the front top rail holding the tent onto the ceiling. Remember to remove the light wire. Then pull the tent towards the back. you will have to do a bit at the top, then bottom, then the other side, and so on. Just keep on sliding the tent back and then slide the top at the back out and that's it.
Hope it helps, otherwise shout if you need more info.
Ps: there is a second hand tent for sale on gumtree. The guys said it is still available, but he modified the bottom connection. I even tried Jurgens for the bottom strip, but they are not very helpful, so I did my own mod where needed.
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04 Nov 2016 @ 09:17:31 am
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Swerwer, ek wens ek kon met eerlikheid sê "dis nie mooi nie" maar dan was dit 'n geval van "jalousy makes you nasty" wink

Baie netjiese werkstuk af gehandel, en soos genoem, die kleur skema is besonders mooi.

NB. Baie welkom op die forumlaughing

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04 Nov 2016 @ 09:50:27 am
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According to the plate on the A-frame (factory specs)
Tarra = 630kg with GVM = 850kg leaves you with 220kg to load.
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04 Nov 2016 @ 17:09:09 pm
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Baie dankie Johann. Deel van die to-do list is om nou te weeg....gaan interessant wees
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05 Nov 2016 @ 08:33:39 am
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Baie dankie Johann. Deel van die to-do list is om nou te weeg....gaan interessant wees

Stem saam, gaan baie interessant wees.Ek is ook baie nuuskierig om die resultaat te sien.
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24 Jan 2017 @ 21:16:43 pm
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Gentlemen.

Please advise. Urgent.

I found a major defect in my "pristine" slipstream bought at Charisma Caravans... COMPLETE ROOF INNER REBUILD REQUIRED. They done a hack fix which did not hold. Sadness.

Could anyone refer me to someone competent? I've already had it to Campworld. They just stuck on a thick rubber seal which came loose and ripped the gauze netting on three of the windows then sent me on my merry way.(I am giving them a chance to fix their errs, but would be difficult to take more work to them.) More sadness.

If you know someone, able to do this right, please refer. I'll do the roof this year, then cabinets next year.

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10 Apr 2021 @ 22:31:32 pm
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I find this very interesting and have a different approach.

Before commenting, I wish to make it clear that I am not prepared to spend a fortune, as I have a comfortable Caravette 6 with an island bed.

In 2016 I bought a Slipstream mk 2 which was off the road and relicenced with a replaced A-frame. It is used for long distances for short stays. The Caravette is used for longer distant stays and nearby short stays.

On receipt I immediately turned the 3 sleeper into a 5 sleeper of which one bunk can be used to shelve a kitchen  in need. Rebuilt the small cupboard to take a porta-potti an bought a small fridge to go on top with a microwave to go on top of the fridge. I am considering rebuilding the cupboard to take the fridge with a small cupboard on top and the micro on top when the roof is extended. Also fitted a box on the A-frame for braai equipment, etc.

My only complaint is there is in effect no raising system ... just hinged metal bars and although manageable, heavy.

I recently replaced the surround canvas for R1 135 and have repainted/varnished the interior and roof external. Am busy repainting the bidy.

I also dont have a tent  but find the Caravette rally very useful. Hope to find a way to also use my 3x4m tarpaulin as a rally tent.

All in all, my total set up won't cost more than 10 000.

Licence tare 200kg GVM750kg

The pother positive is that my daughterand 3 grand children used it and are now keen to borrow it again. Now look forward to camping together.

DR DRAKE GP

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