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08 Apr 2010 @ 19:20:27 pm
Andy
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Hi to the groups from a newbie. We have recently returned to caravaning after many years of not having one. We recently bought a 1990 Gypsy 5, but the Chargemaster has been fiddled with and no longer works as it should. I would like to return it to original and wonder if anyone can help with a circuit diagram for the beast. I can be contacted directly on andy.cairns@xsinet.co.za if you can help with a diagram. I am sure we will be using this forum quite abit and look forward to some good interaction on various issues around this great topic. Regards Andy
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08 Apr 2010 @ 21:29:26 pm
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Welcome Andy, google the SA site, typing' chargemaster wiring diagram' and you will find plenty of helpful people can send you one. Regards, Duncan
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09 Apr 2010 @ 12:57:16 pm
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Hello Duncan, I have tried everywhere to get a copy of the circuit dwg for the chargemaster and none of the agents, even Jurgens Ci can help me. Lehman's, the people who manufactured the unit went belly up many years ago, so there is nothing from them. Unless someone actually has a copy of the circuit, then there is no where else. I did read of someone on one of the forums having a cicuit dwg, but cannot fing the person either. All I managed to get from Jurgens was a wiring diagram for the entry/exit to the chargemaster. Andy
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09 Apr 2010 @ 13:21:31 pm
Andy
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Thanks to Wimpie van Staden at Jurgens Ci and Dave at Lehman transformers, I have managed to get a diagram. Hopefully we can now get power back to what it's supposed to be. Andy
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18 Apr 2010 @ 11:58:15 am
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Hi Andy. Would you mind sending me a copy to lindley@vox.co.za. Many thanks. Rory
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19 Aug 2010 @ 11:14:14 am
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Hi Andy, Ditto, I need the diagram too. Could you please send it to: dirkmarja@mweb.co.za Tnx Dirk
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09 Sep 2010 @ 20:47:35 pm
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Hi Andy. Have also just purchased and "older" Gypsey 5 - planning to do little caravaning again after many years. Can you please oblige by sending me a copy of the Chargemaster diagram? E-mail : dgreen@webafrica.org.za Many thanks , Doug Green
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05 Oct 2010 @ 07:55:25 am
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Hi, Andy It seems everyone is looking for the wiring diagram would you please be so kind to mail it to me. zenpro@mweb.co.za, thanks
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16 Oct 2010 @ 16:17:02 pm
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Hi Andy - I hope you see this post and can still supply info on the chargemaster. I initially wanted the diagram for interest sake , but now need it as my chargemaster is not charging the battery. I have fitted a battery charger from Midas as a temporary fix - this has worked well for the 2 weeks caravaning. If you still have the info , my e-mail is: dgreen@webafrica.org.za Many thanks
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01 Nov 2010 @ 10:57:11 am
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Hi Every 1 I still have a copy of the CHARGEMASTER circuit diagram available. Drop me a mail and i will gladly forward theo.versteegh@live.co.za
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30 Dec 2010 @ 11:39:56 am
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Hi Theo or Andy Firstly Happy New Year to all campers and friends.I am now in need of the diagram for the charge master , if anybody still has it available could you please it to me as I am battling with the charging systemAppreciate all help.E mail address:marton@zwn.co.za regards Tony
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30 Dec 2010 @ 17:48:03 pm
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Hi People I would appreciate it if a copy of the diagram could be sent to me as well to jaried@mweb.co.za Thanks a million
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03 Feb 2011 @ 22:20:57 pm
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Hi Andy. Would you mind sending me a copy to fashome@webmail.co.za Many thanks. Pieter
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05 Feb 2011 @ 07:48:53 am
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Hi Andy. Sorry, I made mistake with my e-mail. Should read fasthome@webmail.co.za. Many thanks. Pieter
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24 Feb 2011 @ 19:32:51 pm
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Hi Andy, I'm also looking for the diagram, please help. japiekeet@arestan.co.za
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23 Jul 2011 @ 22:04:58 pm
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Hi Andy. Hope you still got the Chargemaster diagram, really would appreciate a copy please. frontdoor67@gmail.com. 

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24 Jul 2011 @ 17:01:52 pm
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Hi Andy / Theo

 

Please would you be so kind as to email me a copy of the chargemaster circuit diagram also?

I bought my caravan (1990 Gypsey Caravette 4) in 1997, and I noticed that it had a cheap Motorite or Midas charger fitted to it. The type that charges the battery full tilt, and does not float the battery once it is charged. A year later, I wanted to grab a jump start from the caravan battery, only to find that the battery was literally blown up, with acid everywhere !I am very keen to sell my van without this problem, so would appreciate a copy of the circuit diagram.

email: angus (at) tropical (d0t) za (d0t) net

Thanks!

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08 Jul 2012 @ 09:09:37 am
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Hi Andy, Itrust you still have the wire diagram, do you mind sending me one to  :   pjetrading@mweb.co.za

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26 Jul 2012 @ 10:07:52 am
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Kan ek ook maar in die ry staan vir 'n afskrif van die diagram vir die battery laaier? Sal opreg waardeer word. Byvoorbaat baie dankie. e-pos adres :blignautc(by)yahoo(dot)co(dot)za

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03 Oct 2012 @ 10:40:41 am
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Hallo almal,

ek is ook 'n "newbie" met 'n "nuwe" Sprite Super Sport 87 en deurmekaar bedrading wat die Charge Master aanbetref.

Ek is besig om all die foute en vrotte te herstel!

'N kringdiagram sal baie waardeer word!

By voorbaat dank

epos: raoulcoetzee@yahoo dot com

 

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03 Oct 2012 @ 13:54:41 pm
Reg
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This has been going on since April 2010.
Whoever has a wiring diagram of this Chargemaster, please make a jpeg and post it here for all to see.
Simple.
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03 Oct 2012 @ 21:17:50 pm
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Hi guys, sorry I didn't see this thread earlier, but I might have the diagram you are looking for, and will try to paste it.

Hope you can use it, otherwise send me a blank e-mail to fppretorius@gmail.com, and I will send you a copy of about 250kb.

Altyd egte kampgroete.

Frans

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04 Oct 2012 @ 15:23:11 pm
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Dankie Frans!!

Grumpy

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05 Oct 2012 @ 10:56:18 am
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Hi All

I also have a few circuit diagrams plus a "Chargemaster Test" document if anyone needs it.

Send me an e-mail if you want a copy  (   dgreen@webafrica.org.za   )

Regards

Doug

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04 Aug 2013 @ 23:02:56 pm
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Hi All,

It looks like chargemaster was not designed to properly charge modern deep cycle batteries. In my 2001 Sprite Scenic I have a chargemaster, it powers the lights and the pump without battery, if I connect the 106 Amps deep cycle battery, it charges it, well kind of. The battery (new, fitted with the mover) feels overcharged (corroded contacts). I intend to replace the chargemaster with a decent deep cycle battery charger without affecting the functionality of the system (should be able to power the lights without battery and when no mains should power the lights an water pump from battery and most importantly should properly charge the deep cycle battery).
Please help with the diagrams. My email: virge422@gmail.com

Regards
Virge
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05 Aug 2013 @ 07:46:48 am
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Virge, hi. I have jus sent you the diagram placed above via your e-mail address. Just go back in the threads, there were long discussions about a week ago on batteries, you will get all the info there that you need.

Regards.

Frans

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05 Aug 2013 @ 08:45:50 am
virge
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Hi Frans,

I got your email.

Thanks
Virge
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30 Sep 2013 @ 08:55:43 am
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Hi there Frans. I'm new to this site and to caravaning, I've recently bought myself a Gypsey 5 1990 model that needs some TLC. Can you please provide me with any diagrams that you may have on this unit?

You can mail it to me at cvande46@ford.com

Thanks.
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30 Sep 2013 @ 17:15:51 pm
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WELCOME to the forum, first of all!!!!!

I will send it to you now-now!!!, I have contact with someone else who are working on revised diagram, will place it here when available.

Regards.

Frans

 

PS; You should have sent me a mail to address given, and i could have sent it earlier, sometimes I come on the forum very late in the day, sometimes not at all!!!

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30 Sep 2013 @ 18:07:10 pm
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As I suggested a while back if the administrator created a folder that would be a library with all these items as supplied by members who wish to share it then it could be a very informative item especially for older model caravans
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07 Oct 2013 @ 12:55:45 pm
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WELCOME to the forum, first of all!!!!!

I will send it to you now-now!!!, I have contact with someone else who are working on revised diagram, will place it here when available.

Regards.

Frans

 

PS; You should have sent me a mail to address given, and i could have sent it earlier, sometimes I come on the forum very late in the day, sometimes not at all!!!



Hallo Frans, Kan jy groot asseblief vir my ook die dedradings diagram van die Gypsey 5 stuur. thinusk@foskor.co.za.

Dankie
Groete
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07 Oct 2013 @ 16:49:37 pm
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As I suggested a while back if the administrator created a folder that would be a library with all these items as supplied by members who wish to share it then it could be a very informative item especially for older model caravans

 

Sennd them a mail from within your dashboard - thatsthe most direct way of contacting admin.

 

I think your suggestion is a good one

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21 Jul 2014 @ 16:36:15 pm
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Hi Frans,
Im getting my stuff sorted out and my chargemaster has been tampered with.
Do you have a diagram of it?
The diagram on your page is blurred.
Thanking You
Tony
awvice@gmail.com
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21 Jul 2014 @ 20:14:11 pm
Anonymous

Tony, hi, just saw your posting, I will mail whatever I have, hope you can use it.

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21 Jul 2014 @ 20:42:05 pm
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Tony welcome to the forum Laughing

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21 Jul 2014 @ 20:47:22 pm
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Ja, man sorry Tony , welcome to the forum!!!! (thanks Brian!!!)  I am between computer, laptop and e-tablet, sommer deurmekaar!!!

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22 Jul 2014 @ 13:22:11 pm
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To each and everyone who responded to my post
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Regards,
Tony
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22 Jul 2014 @ 13:56:45 pm
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Hi Tony welcome I like your camping style

"Children have never been good at listening to their elders, but they have never failed to imitate them."
-James Baldwin-
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05 Jun 2017 @ 17:56:22 pm
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Dag Frans, die ding wat ek soek is die Lehman 3023 (samson 6) se info.
Welkome nuweling op die forum.
Hi there fellow camper, enjoy camping.
When you leave just leave your foot prints and nothing other than a clean site as you found it.
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09 Jan 2018 @ 13:21:37 pm
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I have a Gypsey Caravette 5 1988 model with a defect CI Chargemaster. I have seen the wiring diagram on this net but if someone can mail me one to pb34011@gmail.com i would appreciate it.
Pieter.
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09 Jan 2018 @ 19:34:54 pm
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Good day Pieter, if possible ask the forum to see there is something on the forum about the diagram you are looking for.
Regards.
Hi there fellow camper, enjoy camping.
When you leave just leave your foot prints and nothing other than a clean site as you found it.
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26 Nov 2019 @ 11:16:47 am
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Good day all

 

need help please. My chargemaster is running on 220 lights and fridge working. If i remove the 220 the lights are still on thats fine. However if I select 12v on fridge its not working and i see the reverse battery light is also not coming on.  

thanx guys

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27 Nov 2019 @ 12:29:27 pm
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Hi Johan

I suspect that the fridge is the absorption type of fridge that runs of 220V, Gas and 12V

Possible causes are;

  1. The 12V side of the fridge is not wired to the battery of the caravan.  The reason for this is that the working principal is that of an heating element which uses a lot of power and will drain the battery quickly.  
  2. Most cases the 12V side of the fridge is wired to the No2 point on the vehicle and caravan wiring plug.  The idea is that the fridge works during towing but your vehicle must be wired to supply power to that no 2 pin of the towing plug.

Remember. 

Before you go and wire the tow vehicle and caravan fridge for this, that these absorption fridges only works properly when they are standing still and is 100% level.  That's why the little round level is usually placed inside the fridge when you level the caravan and set the corner steadies.

If you go camping of grid the best is to have the 12V for the lights and the run the fridge on gas.

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27 Nov 2019 @ 13:06:12 pm
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Good day all

 

need help please. My chargemaster is running on 220 lights and fridge working. If i remove the 220 the lights are still on thats fine. However if I select 12v on fridge its not working and i see the reverse battery light is also not coming on.  

thanx guys

Welcome on the forum Johan.

Johan just a quick answer to one point. The reverse battery light is only there to warn you that you have the battery leads the wrong way round. It does not indicate the fridge is running on 12V.

Further the Charge Master only had a 1-2A charger inside. This cannot power the fridge and you should see a Fridge MCB which is there to protect the 12V coming from your towing vehicle and goes to the fridge element. (normally a light blue wire) This element draws about 12-15A and no battery will be able to supply power to the fridge longer than a few hours. It is intended to be used only while towing and the tow vehicle engine is running.

 

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27 Nov 2019 @ 15:03:22 pm
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Hi Johan

I suspect that the fridge is the absorption type of fridge that runs of 220V, Gas and 12V

Possible causes are;

  1. The 12V side of the fridge is not wired to the battery of the caravan.  The reason for this is that the working principal is that of an heating element which uses a lot of power and will drain the battery quickly.  
  2. Most cases the 12V side of the fridge is wired to the No2 point on the vehicle and caravan wiring plug.  The idea is that the fridge works during towing but your vehicle must be wired to supply power to that no 2 pin of the towing plug.

Remember. 

Before you go and wire the tow vehicle and caravan fridge for this, that these absorption fridges only works properly when they are standing still and is 100% level.  That's why the little round level is usually placed inside the fridge when you level the caravan and set the corner steadies.

If you go camping of grid the best is to have the 12V for the lights and the run the fridge on gas.

Leon thank you so much. Yes my concern was that the fridge will defrost on your way to the camping spot.  

Now i just need to figure out how to ignite the gas if we go to a camping spot with no 220. 

Once again thank you for your help 

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27 Nov 2019 @ 15:08:12 pm
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Welcome on the forum Johan.

Johan just a quick answer to one point. The reverse battery light is only there to warn you that you have the battery leads the wrong way round. It does not indicate the fridge is running on 12V.

Further the Charge Master only had a 1-2A charger inside. This cannot power the fridge and you should see a Fridge MCB which is there to protect the 12V coming from your towing vehicle and goes to the fridge element. (normally a light blue wire) This element draws about 12-15A and no battery will be able to supply power to the fridge longer than a few hours. It is intended to be used only while towing and the tow vehicle engine is running.

 

Thank you Danie. 
I thought that the unit could act as an inverter if only running on 12v and reverse indication would be an inverter.  Now I know

 

I bought the caravan 2nd hand and I don’t think the previous owner used the gas thou. I can hear gas and smell it if I press the one button in. But I don’t think the ignitor works. Would it need 12v?  The 220 works thou but would like the gas to work incase. 

onve again that you for the advice 

 

 

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27 Nov 2019 @ 17:59:59 pm
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One more q guys.  I see only live neg and earth running from fridge to chargemaster.  Does the chargemaster switch over automatically when 220 is removed over to the cars 12v.  I tested the blue wire from car pin plug wile engine is running  and it has power. But my light on fridge does Not go on if I select 12v/gas?

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27 Nov 2019 @ 20:39:13 pm
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Johan I would think there would be a 220V element as well as a 12V element. Thus you are short of 2 wires for 12V as well as the element. My similar fridge was only gas and 12V and I have not worked on the 3 way fridge.

Leon or one of the other chaps would be able to help you out. I would think you have to move the selector switch at the bottom of the fridge if it is the brown Barlows make as was used long ago when moving from 12V/gas/220V.

May be you can mention the vintage of the caravan and make as well as the make of the fridge.

Although the 7pin socket on the car has 12V make sure by tracing the wire on pin 2 to see that it goes to the MCB marked fridge on the Charge Master via the 7pin on the caravan side. Then from the load side of the Charge Master there must be a 12V positive wire connected on the 12V element on the fridge. The access is normally from the back of the fridge via a ventilation flap.

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17 Jan 2020 @ 09:50:03 am
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Goeie dag

Ek het dringend hulp nodig met my ISO Charger, dit het ge pop ek kry nie dit ge herstel nie is daar dalk iemand wat my kan help sal dit baie wardeer. 

Groete Hendrik 

Cell 079 496 9183

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17 Jan 2020 @ 11:04:43 am
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Goeie dag

Ek het dringend hulp nodig met my ISO Charger, dit het ge pop ek kry nie dit ge herstel nie is daar dalk iemand wat my kan help sal dit baie wardeer. 

Groete Hendrik 

Cell 079 496 9183

Hendrik ek ken nie iemand daar in die Kaap rond wat jou kan help nie.  Hier is wel 'n ou in Pretoria wat die chargemasters regmaak.

Jy kan hom dalk skakel.

Sy naam is ook Leon en no is (082 sewe sewe nil 98 een 3)

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17 Jan 2020 @ 19:23:45 pm
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Dankie! Hy antwoord nie sy telefoon nie.

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