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Which fuel savers work?

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22 Mar 2013 @ 07:46:45 am
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I am keen to hear from "users" which fuel savers work.

I have already read the critics versions and cannot agree. By the time most have driven out a tank of fuel, they probably would not even notice the difference, or even countered any improvement by change of driving pattern, such as more town driving.

I would be satisfied with even 1/2 km per litre and the gadget will then eventually pay for itself.

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22 Mar 2013 @ 08:36:04 am
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I agree with you wholeheartedly cos none of them work.  I have found one that is totally FREE and we are all born with it : ATTITUDE and a light foot. It seems that this is the only one that really works.  Cool

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22 Mar 2013 @ 11:36:24 am
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DR, Alan's advice is unbeatable!

These points will improve things marginally:
Use synthetic oil with a viscosity rating matching the operating temp and load of the engine, around 5W/50W is probably OK,
The engine's thermostat must work properly,
Clean air filter is a must,
Pump tyres to proper pressure (not too soft),
Avoid the aircon if possible,
Reduce speed to around 100km/h max, above this drag increases out of proportion to the actual speed increase achieved,
Install phaser gun which fires into right ear each time the loud pedal is pushed to hard (just joking here!),
Plan trip so that unnecessary km are not rolled out,
Use rated fuel, otherwise the engine pinks and the management system will roll back to a less efficient "safe" setting,
etc,

Ian.
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22 Mar 2013 @ 13:08:37 pm
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I cannot agree that none work! I do accept driving style and vehicle condition do have an impact.

In stead of claiming none work, please rather tell us which one's you have tested!

1) When towing out of Carletonville, to the north, there are long slight inclines where my cars performance was marginal - when towing there, 6th gear was just too weak to maintain 100kph and would slowly lose speed and dropping to 5th would accelerate back to 100kph. Since fitting a gadget, it maintains the 100kph, in 6th with the speed control set in both cases.

2) It did not matter how carefully I travelled, but at 100kph normal travelling, I never bettered 21.5 km per litre. After installation the car is returning more than 22km per litre - since Monday until last night 963 km at 22.8 km per litre.

Years back, I also clearly noticed an improvement on an Escourt of 0.5 km per litre on 14 km per litre on a different product. This extra +- 30 km on a tank meant I could re-fuel every fifth day i.s.o. every 4th day.

 

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22 Mar 2013 @ 14:59:23 pm
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Fuel saver is in your right shoe and mind

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22 Mar 2013 @ 15:32:59 pm
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Noted Willem, but there is no right shoe with the speed control engaged.

Again I ask .... In stead of claiming none work, please rather tell us which one's you have tested!

There are reasons why they don't save fuel as well such as adapting driving style to actually use additional power.
There are also reasons why manufacturers don't install them as standard equipment, which have nothing to do with whether they work or not.

Grumpy .... remember on another thread where you joked saying you don't think providing your town was a good idea because your bank manager could then find you and I joked back saying that I may be the guy who tells him what to do with you .... except that I don't know of you other than on this forum nor where you bank, so nothing was personal - ... I am a banker, (some members do know that).
So, I don't sell them and am not trying an underhanded trick to promote them.

I am genuinly interested to find out which work - I now know of two that work for me!.

Lets hear from those who have actually tried them.



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22 Mar 2013 @ 17:21:20 pm
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I hear that the guys from STEVEs AUTO in boksburg is specialists in this field. Maybe they can give you some technical advice.
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22 Mar 2013 @ 20:39:27 pm
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The only saving is because mentally you want to cover the costs you threw away and or don't want to admit being a bit of a chop.

If anything worked it would be fitted on all cars.

Now forget this thread altogether and have a good weekend.

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23 Mar 2013 @ 11:28:27 am
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Steve'Auto ships your engine for more k wats and power, when you whant to try the power more petrol

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23 Mar 2013 @ 13:52:20 pm
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A well tuned and proper service, and your driving style are the only fuelsavers that work. A good state of mind not to race the motor and keep within the power band will assist in saving.

 

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23 Mar 2013 @ 17:03:59 pm
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Forgot to mention that speed control is a no-no for best fuel consumption. Figure out how speed control works when labouring uphill...

In Pretoria is a fellow who used to run a business "meer kilos per litre en kie" (Mr von Wieligh?) or something similar. He used to do the tune-ups for General Motors/Opel for the fuel efficiency rally (where fuel efficiency would win in a particular class). One of his first efforts was to tune the engine for minimum fuel consumption at a constant speed. He was flabbergasted when the cars came in near last in its class. The cars were so low on power due to the lean mixture the drivers had to chase them to just keep up and they used MORE petrol.
So he changed his philosophy completely and then tuned up the cars for best power (timed up the "nek" out of Voortekkers Rd Pretoria, starting from zero speed at the bottom and full speed out the top).
You guessed it - his cars now came in tops in their class.

So basically devices which rely on starving the fuel flow will not be successful at the end of a journey, particularly so in modern computerized engines which will simply back off on optimum settings to protect the engine against a lean mixture.

A while back I asked if anyone had experience with the hydrogen generator products which some drivers had installed in their cars. This device consists of two stainless steel plates immersed in a baking powder solution in a sealed plastic container. A high current, ~40A or more, is then passed through (off the alternator) and the water solution is hydrolyzed to HHO (2 hydrogen molecules and one oxygen in a stream of gas) which is inserted into the inlet of the engine, normally by breaking into the vacuum advance pipe in older engines, or the mass flow meter in new computerized engines.
The belief is the stream of hydrogen somehow enhances the efficiency thereby adding 40-50% to the fuel efficiency.
This scam was debunked is a test done by the magazine Popular Mechanics where it was found if anything the fuel consumption might have increased.
I accompanied a friend on a trip to Hole in the Wall, Transkei. He had such a device in his Cressida Station wagon and was going on to whoever would listen about the fantastic fuel consumption he was now getting. But the measurement technique could best be described as vague...Those that want to believe will believe...

Ian.


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24 Mar 2013 @ 07:50:05 am
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Interesting statestics

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24 Mar 2013 @ 21:00:24 pm
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Hi all,

I have some experience with the diesel torque unit as I fitted it to my Kia about year ago. I do travel a lot to JHB and Richards Bay from Cape Town and have done numerious test while on the road.

From Cape Town to B/West I use the vehicle with the chip in on cruse control and get 11.5km/lt towing a 6foot trailer. In B/West I fill up again but disconnect the the chip and fill up again in BFN. This time around I normally get 10.6km/lt.

Those of you who have travelled this route knows that from CPT to B/West you do most of the climbing and the road between B/West and BFN is much more even.

There is also a noticeble difference in the number of times the gearbox needs to go back to 5th gear on this long hauls.

It is simple matchs the longer your vehicle can run intop gear the less fuel it will use and to run longer in top gear the engin needs to produce more power.

I see this in my trucking business as well. As soon as a smaller capicity engin vehicle with the same payload try to keep up with the bigger capacity engin vehicle also with the same payload its fuel consumption is down the drain.

If I am not mistaken there was once a test done on TopGear where they tested a M3 agains some small car around the track and the same speed and the M3 had the better fuel consumption.

It is when you start driving like an idiot that the fuel consumption goes through the roof.
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24 Mar 2013 @ 21:00:28 pm
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Hi all,

I have some experience with the diesel torque unit as I fitted it to my Kia about year ago. I do travel a lot to JHB and Richards Bay from Cape Town and have done numerious test while on the road.

From Cape Town to B/West I use the vehicle with the chip in on cruse control and get 11.5km/lt towing a 6foot trailer. In B/West I fill up again but disconnect the the chip and fill up again in BFN. This time around I normally get 10.6km/lt.

Those of you who have travelled this route knows that from CPT to B/West you do most of the climbing and the road between B/West and BFN is much more even.

There is also a noticeble difference in the number of times the gearbox needs to go back to 5th gear on this long hauls.

It is simple matchs the longer your vehicle can run intop gear the less fuel it will use and to run longer in top gear the engin needs to produce more power.

I see this in my trucking business as well. As soon as a smaller capicity engin vehicle with the same payload try to keep up with the bigger capacity engin vehicle also with the same payload its fuel consumption is down the drain.

If I am not mistaken there was once a test done on TopGear where they tested a M3 agains some small car around the track and the same speed and the M3 had the better fuel consumption.

It is when you start driving like an idiot that the fuel consumption goes through the roof.
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25 Mar 2013 @ 18:20:57 pm
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Other than Chipping, in SA it's the right foot.
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26 Mar 2013 @ 06:46:44 am
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Hi Guys - especially Alan, Ian, Willem, Duncan, Hennievr and Ole,

Please tell us which devices you have used/tested.
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26 Mar 2013 @ 07:01:07 am
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None, ever !

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26 Mar 2013 @ 08:30:03 am
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Dr,

Now you are REALLY asking me something. In my stupid days a few years ago I tried a whole range of goodies and none of then proved effective. The only ones that come to mind at the moment was a gadget that Stromberg made which if I remember was either fitted to the coil or ignition wires and something that had magnets in that wrapped around the fuel line (petrol and diesel) and probably some others I can't recall.

At the moment I drive a '95 Isuzu 2.8 D/C and am getting around 12.5 km's/liter around town and the last time I towed my caravan around 10km/liter (with aircon on) which I think is fair.

I think that a light foot and conservative driving is more of an answer as well as taking the usual precautions such as keeping the windows closed, etc. The main thing I find is keeping to regular services and changing the oil at the correct mileages.

If I think of anymore gadgets, I will post it here but honestly I think think the expense of fitting any of them does not justify the cost.

If something sounds too true then it is

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26 Mar 2013 @ 08:38:34 am
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Thanks Alan,

Your comments now are more valuable - Thanks.

I remember the Stromberg - also tried it - claimed to improve ignition - which I believe may have worked on poorly tuned engines. When I fitted it, you could clearly hear an improvement in the running of the engine and immediately checked the timing and carburettor settings. I am under the impression that fuel injection and electronic timing have rendered it useless.

Never tried the magnets as I could not imagine the way magnetism could change the fuel consistence.

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26 Mar 2013 @ 09:08:33 am
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Dr Drake

You touched an interresting topic here.

It seems as if people do not play around with any "gadgets" to save fuel. Most replies were to change you driving style. I also did it with the Toyta D4D. Instead of driving 140km and get 9.3km/lt I now drive 120km/h and get 11.2km/lt without towing. Towing this weekend = 8.2km/lt.

There is a reason for not playing with "gadgets". Believe me you WILL loose your warrantee on the vehicle. Once the vehicle is out of warrantee/maintenance-service plan the vehicle is either Traded in or you are so used to the fuel consumption that you do not want to make changes.

And again...if anything go wrong, it will be blamed on the "gadget" Years ago it was relative cheap to repair a vehicle because they did not have so many "Electronics" in them. I have a theory on this as well that no-one could prove me wrong..........I believe cars are programmed electronically to die at a certain mileage!

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26 Mar 2013 @ 09:36:18 am
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DR, seems you are still not convinced...You asked so lets try and answer your query in full.

Magnets wrapped around the fuel lines, and spark frequency convertors like the Stromberg are in the category of snake oil...

The only way to improve fuel consumption in a new vehicle fitted with a management computer is to re-chip AND blue print the engine.

Blue printing involves gas flowing the cylinder head around the inlets and exhaust outlets, tapering the valves to their seats, matching the inlet and exhaust manifold gaskets to the reshaped ports, and fitting tuned inlet and exhaust manifolds. The pistons are balanced for volumetric equality and the engine is balanced. A through flow exhaust and low loss air cleaner are then also fitted.

Having done this the specialist tuning shop will want to know what you are hoping to achieve and you will reply that you are looking for fuel efficiency when towing your caravan at 100 km/h on the highveld in 5th gear, for example.

Thus advised the shop will put your vehicle on the rolling road dyno and load it up simulate your vehicle and caravan on the road at 100km/h. The computer in the vehicle is repeatedly reprogrammed with new ignition advance curves if petrol and new fuel mixture curves, each time measuring power/torque and fuel consumption, engine temp, etc.
The entire process will take around 2-3 days and cost you around R30000-R50000 (my guess).

After this major surgery and expense the vehicle will have noticeably more oomph at the 100 km/h towing speed and you might see an improvement of 1 litre per 100km, but not more (my guess).

Some tuning shops simply put the vehicle, in standard form, on the rolling road dyno, and play with the management curves mentioned above. The improvement will be less marked, but the cost will be a fraction of the full treatment above.

Effectively, the power curve of the vehicle is being narrow-banded to special circumstances. The manufacturer, in designing the vehicle, will do its best to avoid narrow banding the power curve as the vehicle has to operate at vastly different places and loads world-wide and the characteristics are "broad-banded" (compromised) to suit all these requirements.

This is why if you are really prepared to, you might get some additional fuel consumption using the methods mentioned.

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26 Mar 2013 @ 09:36:26 am
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Thanks Grumpy,

I don't think those advising on driving style understand my position - I drive the same road 5 days a week with the same load and approximately the conditions - have been since 1999 - with my present car since March last year.
The fact is that I was getting between 19.5 and 21 km per litre (with 19.5 being when I leave the M1 at Booysens when traffic is heavy). So basically, I already know before filling what I can expect - at the filling station I request them to fill up and even give them an indication of how many litres to expect and am generally way within a litre!
Now I am easily clearing 23km per litre!
I can also relate other examples of similar consumption.

Then on the otherhand, if you regularly tow the same incline and find you are slowly losing speed from 100kph in 6th but can accelarate back in 5th before fitting a device, then I would think I am qualified sufficiently through experience to know the ability of my car.
Then after fitting the device, the car manages to maintain 100kph in 6th gear.

Then, I cannot say that it does not work.

As far as trying to bluff myself that it works to justify the expense is nonsense - there is a 30 day money back guaranty.

I had a device fitted to my Renault Scenic, years ago ... found it had more power at low speeds but at normal travelling speeds it had less power - this was later confirmed when machine tested with the break even being at 3 000 revs.

I have deliberatley withheld the product names to see if I can get genuine replies and not personal beliefs nor hearsay. Hence my opening sentence "I am keen to hear from "users" which fuel savers work".






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26 Mar 2013 @ 12:40:21 pm
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There was a turbine unit under the carb. that was more of a noise genrator there was the fuel pressure regulator, Stromberg igniter that was on the coil wire to the cap would increase spark and give better burning, bardoll that will give less friction, tyre controllers to keep tyre pressures correct and therefor save fuel, special exhaust systems, air intake systems, polished heads and ports and this actually gave you a bit more power. And there is a lot more that i cannot remember.

The right foot and a good mindset is a real saver. Do not labour an engine and use the gears. You can set an engine for more power and then it will save in the long run as you can go further in a specific gear.

Dr if you fitted the chip it will work as it overide factory specs to adchieve a better fuel consumption and better power band. But that is on computor driven vehicles.

All motor vehicles these days make use of various techniques to get lower fuel consumption and higher power. Their air intakes and exhaust systems are better develloped and so is inner motor engeneering.

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26 Mar 2013 @ 13:34:27 pm
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Not sure that it would apply to your situation, but this is what I found with my previous vehicle, a 2003 D/c Hilux 2700i. With a full 70l in the tank, towing my smallish caravan from Cape Town to Robertson with 2 adults and a toddler onboard....I could'nt make a return trip. At 260k's the fuel light came on, just made it to the Engen near Kraaifontein!.

So, clearly a problem child. Add to which, it was very tiring to drive, needing conatant gear changes to try maintain 80-90kph.

I fitted a Powerflow exhaust (just the basic unit) and found a huge difference. Towing with my full kit (full tent, rather than rally awning, extra chairs/tables etc) I could get to 350k's before the fuel light was in range. It also made a big difference in that I effectively gained a gear. By way of example, when going over Sir Lowries Pass from the CT side there is a robot at the bottom that very annoyingly denies you momentum before the climb. Previously I would have to drop as low as 2nd gear. Same load and weather conditions/time of day I found 3rd gear comfortable with power to spare.

Not sure you would want your Sonic giving off a Sonic Boom with a new exhaust, but that is my experience, for what it's worth.

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26 Mar 2013 @ 14:07:50 pm
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DR,

I cannot comment on gadgets for fuel saving, wish I could.  Different fuels from different fuel stations or even from same station at different times can make a big difference in fuel consumption.

I while ago I had a C270CDI which was giving me on some real good days 4.8 l/100km (yes, really nursing it – Between C/ville and Pta).  Then after a while on the same route, same time of day and the exact same nursing attitude I would not get better than 5.4 l/100km.  I would not even want to mention making use of 500 ppm diesel fuel.

I am still sorry I sold the Merc, because of its good fuel consumption.

I had the opportunity to drive a diesel Sonic a while ago and was impressed with its fuel "non" consumption.  As you say easy to get more than 20km/l.

I think you have to get yourself a real fuel guzzler, like my 4.1 Senator I had.  Towing gave me between 5 and 6km/l.  There's a reason to look for better consumption.

BTW I think that Sonic is a great vehicle.

Lastly, how much more fuel economy do you want from your Chevy?

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26 Mar 2013 @ 15:41:00 pm
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Thanks HarryOpdieTremspoor,

I am more keen to see which gadgets have been used genuinly, which I trusted I would find honest/unbiased opinions amongst our forum friends - I have seen the critics and the sellers comments.

To be honest, I am happy with the consumption - this weekend I set the speed control at 100kph and on 220km to Slurry(Mafikeng) the car recorded 26.6 km per litre and back 28.1km per litre.
Without the gadget, the best I had was 26.6km per litre to Potchefstroom travelling at 80kph.

I also don't believe all fuel savers work on all vehicles. A colleague also fitted the same to a Condor and has not noticed any change.

What surprises me even more than the consumption is the Sonic's performance and ability to tow, albeit only the 971kg GVM of the old Caravette - and this from 1248 cc engine
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26 Mar 2013 @ 16:41:13 pm
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Dr: 28km per litre????
Is that a world record?

Ian.
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26 Mar 2013 @ 17:00:04 pm
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Ian,

Personally I am going to put my feet in my mouth as I am fairly sure that is possible with the Sonic.  I you have not driven it be careful.

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26 Mar 2013 @ 19:18:17 pm
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Die mos die dr se kar hy kan kry wat hy wil Ian

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27 Mar 2013 @ 06:18:52 am
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Hi Ian,

I suggest you look up on the web to see what the manufacturers claim.
Then you will see that my figures are not out of line.
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27 Mar 2013 @ 06:31:35 am
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Here are the specs (by the way the small Polo Diesel's consumption is even better - was my first choice but the tare is too low))

1.4 LS M/T 1.6 LS M/T 1.3D LS M/T
Engine and Chassis
Bore (mm) 73.4 79 69.6
Stroke (mm) 82.6 81.5 82
Capacity (cc) 1,398 1,598 1,248
Compression Ratio 10.5 10.8 16.8
Valve Train DOHC DOHC DOHC
Cylinders 4 4 4
Fuel System Multi-point Injection Multi-point Injection Multi-point Injection
Power (kW @ r/min) 74 @ 6000 85 @ 6000 70 @ 4000
Torque (Nm @ r/min) 130 @ 4000 155 @ 4000 210 @ 1750-2500
Combined CO2 Emissions (g/km) 139 155 119
FUEL CONSUMPTION
Urban (l/100km) 7.6* 8.6* 5.7*
Extra-urban (l/100km) 4.8* 5.3* 4.0*
Combined (l/100) 5.8* 6.5* 4.6*
PERFORMANCE
Accerleration In seconds (0-100km/h) 12.7 11.3 11.7
Top Speed (km/h) 174 183 174
TRANSMISSION
Drive Axle Front Wheel Drive Front Wheel Drive Front Wheel Drive
Transmission 5 Speed Manual 5 Speed Manual 6 Speed
CHASSIS
Wheel Suspension Front McPherson Strut McPherson Strut McPherson Strut
Wheel Suspension Rear Torsion Beam Torsion Beam Torsion Beam
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10 Feb 2019 @ 19:54:02 pm
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DR, seems you are still not convinced...You asked so lets try and answer your query in full.

Magnets wrapped around the fuel lines, and spark frequency convertors like the Stromberg are in the category of snake oil...

The only way to improve fuel consumption in a new vehicle fitted with a management computer is to re-chip AND blue print the engine.

Blue printing involves gas flowing the cylinder head around the inlets and exhaust outlets, tapering the valves to their seats, matching the inlet and exhaust manifold gaskets to the reshaped ports, and fitting tuned inlet and exhaust manifolds. The pistons are balanced for volumetric equality and the engine is balanced. A through flow exhaust and low loss air cleaner are then also fitted.

Having done this the specialist tuning shop will want to know what you are hoping to achieve and you will reply that you are looking for fuel efficiency when towing your caravan at 100 km/h on the highveld in 5th gear, for example.

Thus advised the shop will put your vehicle on the rolling road dyno and load it up simulate your vehicle and caravan on the road at 100km/h. The computer in the vehicle is repeatedly reprogrammed with new ignition advance curves if petrol and new fuel mixture curves, each time measuring power/torque and fuel consumption, engine temp, etc.
The entire process will take around 2-3 days and cost you around R30000-R50000 (my guess).

After this major surgery and expense the vehicle will have noticeably more oomph at the 100 km/h towing speed and you might see an improvement of 1 litre per 100km, but not more (my guess).

Some tuning shops simply put the vehicle, in standard form, on the rolling road dyno, and play with the management curves mentioned above. The improvement will be less marked, but the cost will be a fraction of the full treatment above.

Effectively, the power curve of the vehicle is being narrow-banded to special circumstances. The manufacturer, in designing the vehicle, will do its best to avoid narrow banding the power curve as the vehicle has to operate at vastly different places and loads world-wide and the characteristics are "broad-banded" (compromised) to suit all these requirements.

This is why if you are really prepared to, you might get some additional fuel consumption using the methods mentioned.

Ek het onlangs n program gesien waar hulle daai magnetiese Stromberg fuel saver deeglik getoets het. Die toets het uitgewys dat dit absoluut GEEN effek op brandstof verbruik of performance het nie.

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10 Feb 2019 @ 22:42:08 pm
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I drive a stock standard Fortuner V6 x 4l x 24 valves. Weather I tow up country or down country. Weather I tow the Fleetline or the 4x4 Metalian. Deep into Botswana's sand or on hard surface. Into the wind or down wind . The car is simply to stupid to see the difference. It almost gives me the SAME fuel consumption. 6 km/l. No matter what I do, I cannot improve on this. 

 

So. Exept the fact. 

 

I have been told that the Fortuner is an aambei-kar. Every asshole has one. (Joke) I LOVE that car. More power than brains. There is  a reason for it being the best seller. 

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11 Feb 2019 @ 06:16:51 am
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I drive a stock standard Fortuner V6 x 4l x 24 valves. Weather I tow up country or down country. Weather I tow the Fleetline or the 4x4 Metalian. Deep into Botswana's sand or on hard surface. Into the wind or down wind . The car is simply to stupid to see the difference. It almost gives me the SAME fuel consumption. 6 km/l. No matter what I do, I cannot improve on this. 

 

So. Exept the fact. 

 

I have been told that the Fortuner is an aambei-kar. Every asshole has one. (Joke) I LOVE that car. More power than brains. There is  a reason for it being the best seller. 

DJ, I bet you DID NOT buy your Fortuner to get a good fuel consumption. It is the raw 4L V6 power that attracted you. Enjoy it.

I had a Ford Territory (also a 4 L 6 cilinder) and absolutely loved it. Yes, heavy on fuel but driving it solo and conservatively on the open road, I did get less that 10L/100km. Driving in town solo was 17L/100km.cry

Se dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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11 Feb 2019 @ 06:23:18 am
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Me inturn has a stock standard 3.2 Ranger and I found that the best way to get better fuel consumption is to relax and enjoy the road keep the speed to the lowest you are prepared to drive it.

It even works when towing.

 

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11 Feb 2019 @ 06:47:54 am
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Me inturn has a stock standard 3.2 Ranger and I found that the best way to get better fuel consumption is to relax and enjoy the road keep the speed to the lowest you are prepared to drive it.

It even works when towing.

 

It is so true Leon. I once towed my Swing with the Territory to San Cha Len in Warmbaths. By doing 100km/h, I managed on the flat stretch 10L/100km on the onboard computer.

Se dankie vir wat jy in die lewe het.
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11 Feb 2019 @ 09:14:56 am
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Geert se plasing herinner my aan vyftig jaar gelede to ons almal ons Anglias en Cortinas "opgehot" het met baie van die metodes wat beskryf word.  As jy regtig geld gehad het om te mors, het jy ' "high lift cam" en 'n "freeflow exaust" aangebring en probeer om 'n "Weber carb" te kry wat naastenby gepas het.  Die uitlaatpyp het baie meer geraas gemaak- of dit meer krag gegee het, is nie so seker nie.  Snaaks, dit is nie meer in aanvraag nie. Dan was jy heeltemal oortuig dat jy meer krag en spoed gehad het- verbruik was nie 'n groot oorweging nie.

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09 Sep 2019 @ 08:03:23 am
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Ek het nie geweet hierdie is steeds op die mark nie.....

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09 Sep 2019 @ 10:10:22 am
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Magtie! Ek het seker 40 of 50 jaar laas van hulle gehoor.  Hulle het toe nie gewerk nie en sal ook nie nou werk nie.  Destyds hoef jy net een op die kabel tussen die klos en die vonkverdeler te geplaas het, nou een op elke volkprop. Gaan ons dalk weer STP stickers en plastieklemoentjies kry?  Hulle het ook glo gehelp om die karre vinnger te laat loop.

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