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04 Jun 2017 @ 19:33:52 pm
Izak
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Is there someone who can give me info on this Samson 6 device for Jurgen ( Sprite sprint) caravan, BRADY connections plugs have been fitted to this device.
I would like to have info on how to connect a national lumina powerpack (deepcell battery) to this device as a backup power supply when the 220volt power supply cuts off at the caravan park.
Panel reads as follows :
Samson 6 black box.
Test monthly RKN
Earth leakage unit
Mains input 230volt
1 output 230volt
2 output 230vOlton
12 UDC with a square box below and a plus and minus.
12 volt to 220volt or vice a versa device.
Will ask administration to place the pictures for me.

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06 Jun 2017 @ 10:11:50 am
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Here are the photos.

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06 Jun 2017 @ 14:10:26 pm
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This looks like another type of charging console similar to that of the Hercules 10 and 20 previously fitted in some of the caravans.

The pictures above clearly show 220V input and output plugs and trip switches for those outputs. The 12V leads (black and red) that goes into that red plug goes directly to the battery for charging/12V power usage.

This console acts as a distrubution box similar to that in your house with tripswitch and plug switches and it provides a trikle charging current to keep the battery charged.

Point of interest is that it does not act as an inverter that will supply you with 220V of the 12V in the event of a power outage.

Looks like the brady connections were made so that you can easily emove the battery for maybe external charging or using the battery at another place or purpose. 

 

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06 Jun 2017 @ 14:11:05 pm
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This looks like another type of charging console similar to that of the Hercules 10 and 20 previously fitted in some of the caravans.

The pictures above clearly show 220V input and output plugs and trip switches for those outputs. The 12V leads (black and red) that goes into that red plug goes directly to the battery for charging/12V power usage.

This console acts as a distrubution box similar to that in your house with tripswitch and plug switches and it provides a trikle charging current to keep the battery charged.

Point of interest is that it does not act as an inverter that will supply you with 220V of the 12V in the event of a power outage.

Looks like the brady connections were made so that you can easily remove the battery for maybe external charging or using the battery at another place or purpose that also have the brady connections. 

 

Sonder Jesus is ek niks! ! ! !
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06 Jun 2017 @ 15:20:40 pm
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I have the same box in my 2011 Gypsey Regal, which comes without a battery. The 12v output is for the LED lights and water pump.
I replaced the one trip switch, which was only 5 amps, with a 15 amp trip switch and installed a second outside box (the type for 3 plugs) and the second trip switch supplies the power.
I installed a switch in order for me to swop between the 12v from the Samson and the 12v from the mover's battery, should there be an interuption of the 220v.
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06 Jun 2017 @ 22:46:10 pm
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This is not a charger... its just a power supply.. Mine will be out soon.. you connect your 12V devices to tge battery, but just remember its not a charger..


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07 Jun 2017 @ 07:27:24 am
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This is not a charger... its just a power supply.. Mine will be out soon.. you connect your 12V devices to tge battery, but just remember its not a charger..

Nou ja daar het julle dit.  Dis nie 'n charger nie die 12V is nou maar net daar.

Ek het wel 'n vraag.  Hoekom sal hulle die 12V verskaf.  Die yskas werk nie met die 12V nie.  Die Geyser werk nie met 12V nie. Microgolf werk nie met 12V nie.  As dit vir 12V ligte in 'n karavaan is waar die karavaan nie toegerus is met 'n battery nie maak dit nie sin nie. Want as daar nie 'n battery is nie beten die 12V ligte vir jou niks as die 220V afwesig is nie. Dan kon die ligte netso wel 220V gewees het.

Help my maar verder reg.

 

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07 Jun 2017 @ 08:40:20 am
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Leon, dit is presies vir daardie rede waarom ek 'n skakelaar ge-installeer het om backup krag van die movers se battery te kry wanneer 220v af is.
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07 Jun 2017 @ 13:07:47 pm
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Nou ja daar het julle dit.  Dis nie 'n charger nie die 12V is nou maar net daar.

Ek het wel 'n vraag.  Hoekom sal hulle die 12V verskaf.  Die yskas werk nie met die 12V nie.  Die Geyser werk nie met 12V nie. Microgolf werk nie met 12V nie.  As dit vir 12V ligte in 'n karavaan is waar die karavaan nie toegerus is met 'n battery nie maak dit nie sin nie. Want as daar nie 'n battery is nie beten die 12V ligte vir jou niks as die 220V afwesig is nie. Dan kon die ligte netso wel 220V gewees het.

Help my maar verder reg.

 

Kyk die 12V outlet is daar. Mens weet net nie wat is presiese Volts wat dit gee nie. is dit net 12V of dalk amper 14V vir laai. Dit sal mens net weet as jy dit meet.  Ek kan verstaan dat mens dalk die 12V nodig het om 12V led ligte in die wa te werk maar weereens mens kry 220 LED ligte ook.

Leon, dit is presies vir daardie rede waarom ek 'n skakelaar ge-installeer het om backup krag van die movers se battery te kry wanneer 220v af is.

Slim plan Johan, want dan werk jou wa se ligte van die battery af.  As die dan nie 'n laaier is nie Johan wat gebruik jy om die movers se battery gelaai te hou.

 

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07 Jun 2017 @ 13:24:42 pm
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Die verkaffers van PowrTouch in Villiers het 'n batterylaaier ge-installeer wat die battery gelaai hou.
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07 Jun 2017 @ 13:30:35 pm
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Die verkaffers van PowrTouch in Villiers het 'n batterylaaier ge-installeer wat die battery gelaai hou.

Good so dit bevestig wat brommer gesê het dat die Samson 6 nie 'n laaier is nie en dat dit net 12V vir die ligte is. 

Maar ai Jurgens hoekom dan 12V liggies en nie direk 220V led's nie. Dit sal net hulle weet.

 

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07 Jun 2017 @ 14:34:04 pm
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Dankie Leon,Willie en Johan vir inligting.
Tot weer siens.
Hi there fellow camper, enjoy camping.
When you leave just leave your foot prints and nothing other than a clean site as you found it.
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07 Jun 2017 @ 14:53:57 pm
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Jurgens sal dan ook die 12v waterpompie met 'n 220v moes vervang het.
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07 Jun 2017 @ 14:57:04 pm
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Ek het nie waterpomp nie en net die ligte, sprint het nie wasbak in nie
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08 Jun 2017 @ 06:05:32 am
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Jurgens sal dan ook die 12v waterpompie met 'n 220v moes vervang het.

So dis maar 'n Jurgens ding. Die 12V ligte in 'n karavaan wat eintlik net 220V het.

 

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27 May 2019 @ 15:04:06 pm
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I had a mover and deep cycle battery 'professionally' fitted when I bought my recent caravan; and they connected the battery to the 12v supply coming out of the Samson 6 power supply.

Yesterday I experienced a terrible chemical smell in the caraven which I traced to an overheated battery. Do NOT connect your battery this way, fit a proper battery charger!

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27 May 2019 @ 17:47:14 pm
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Proof of pudding lies in the eating.  Also Pieter was right.

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28 May 2019 @ 11:40:02 am
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Die lekker ding van die 12V ligte en die pompie in die karavaan is dat as jy later battery byvoeg (EN LAAIER!!!) Dan is dit reeds makliker...


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28 May 2019 @ 13:12:17 pm
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The gas given off by the battery was hydrogen sulphide which is very poisonous, corrosive and flammable. So, anyone who has their battery connected directly to the power supply should have their system modified urgently

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28 May 2019 @ 13:45:57 pm
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Clearly shows that those 12V points on the Samson 6 will over charge the battery.

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